I have a vortex 3x magnifier that I got just to test the concept and unfortunately, the magnifier has a similar size eyebox to the ACOG. A higher tier magnifier might be better but I really have to get up on it to not have a ton of shadow
Well, it cost to play and if you can’t play, go be poor someplace else. Buy a $100 magnifier and you better not expect much other than a lousy piece of glass that sits in your range bag or hangs on the side of your rail like a obscene cancerous growth.
I too have shot both and for my needs an LPVO is the way to go. If or when needed it will do just fine as a red dot….why, because that’s the way I shoot it most of the time. Eyebox/relief isn’t an issue and hasn’t been an issue. I’m not breaching, clearing, or pieing corners. I’m developing my skills speed shooting steel/cardboard. When not being used in this manner it’s my hog/coyote gun. As far as weight, you’ve got me there. It is on the heavy side but a 16” JPE with thermal dissipator isn’t exactly light to begin with and adding a Razor G II-E only adds to it.
I agree if your going to spend over 200 on a 3 or 5x magnifier you're close to a cheap LVPO and you get an etched reticle that doesn't grow for a sfp scope. I don't remember if the eyebox at 1X on the Vortex or PA was really tight but on the Burris I have at 1X it's not bad at all. It's probably more of a 1.5 then a true 1X but it's not enough to lose your target looking through. I guess it depends on what kind of back up sights you're running if you want to use a scope vs red dot.
Oh and Primary arms stuff is on sale right now for 12% off so that might help.
Oh and Primary arms stuff is on sale right now for 12% off so that might help.
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Yeah yeah yeah go be poor somewhere else, have to pay to play…right lol.
Someone should have told that to Rumsfeld when he told us “You go to war with the Army you have, not what you want.”
I like my Nightforce scopes. They’re very nice. Very clear.
Do they make me hit targets better than a red dot at red dot distances? No.
Are red dots faster at red dot distances? Every single time.
Dude asks about cheap magnifiers and LPVO’s, dudes come in to brag on their Vortex.
I like the LPVO idea and don't necessarily think you have to go up to $1300 but that's just me. Really dig my Trijicon Credo HX.
However, I picked up a few of these PA GLX prism scopes that I threw on my Galils and I honestly think they are a good mix depending on how far out you intend to shoot.
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-glx-2x-prism-scope-with-acss-cqb-m5-5-56-reticle
Just my .02
Cry me a river DUDE, if you have it or can do it, it isn’t bragging. It’s fact. Take your self righteousness and peddle it elsewhere. Why would anyone recommend cheap crap to a fellow shooter? When you‘re dealing with electronics, polished/coated glass, longevity, durability, repeatability, and survivability cheap doesn’t enter into the conversation regardless of the OP’s perceived financial abilities. And, if you‘re as knowledgeable as you think you are you would know this.Yeah yeah yeah go be poor somewhere else, have to pay to play…right lol.
Someone should have told that to Rumsfeld when he told us “You go to war with the Army you have, not what you want.”
I like my Nightforce scopes. They’re very nice. Very clear.
Do they make me hit targets better than a red dot at red dot distances? No.
Are red dots faster at red dot distances? Every single time.
Dude asks about cheap magnifiers and LPVO’s, dudes come in to brag on their Vortex.
You’re the one who got his panties in a bunch with my answer. Get over your woke attitude (yes, I’m privileged because I worked for it) or take it over to AR15.com, there you can play with the other 12 year olds.
Most of the firearm related posts on this site are, to your standards, bragging. Kind of like you mentioning the NF…..wow, I’m impressed, DUDE has a NF. Which one is it? It’s not the NX8 1-8x24 is it because that has a terrible eyebox and I wouldn’t recommend it. My LPVO is just as effective as a red dot in close and more effective at distance than a red dot with magnifier and I’m not crying with buyers remorse a year from now wishing I had not listened to some here and saved my money and gone a different route.
Yes, you really do have to pay to play but, you already knew this or you wouldn’t own a Vortex Razor and a NF when a Strike Eagle would have sufficed how be it with great disadvantage in quality and performance.
Jcann you do not speak with honor, wisdom, or kindness. I feel sorry for you despite your bank balance.
Oh I'd say your panties are there too lol....
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