Citizenship question 2020 census

[BReeves]

If this has already been hashed I missed it. What possible legitimate reason could anyone have to not know how many noncitizens are in the country.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/15/6712...on-to-remove-2020-census-citizenship-question

 

[lee1000]

If this has already been hashed I missed it. What possible legitimate reason could anyone have to not know how many noncitizens are in the country.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/15/6712...on-to-remove-2020-census-citizenship-question

The judge likely hates this country

 

[Fyrtwuck]

I can see where it could be argued that the admission that a person is in the country illegally (a crime) is a violation of the fifth amendment. (Self incrimination).

The last census form I received had some questions that I thought were getting too personal and I didn’t feel it was any of their business and I left those questions blank.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Why would anyone who is NOT a citizen receive a 'questionnaire' ?

I let them know only that which the Constitution requires the government to know. Period.

Woody

 

[lasher]

I can see where it could be argued that the admission that a person is in the country illegally (a crime) is a violation of the fifth amendment. (Self incrimination).

The last census form I received had some questions that I thought were getting too personal and I didn’t feel it was any of their business and I left those questions blank.

ummm, is not the 5th amendment for citizens, not alien "visitors" ? since when does our constitution include alien "visitors" having rights enumerated in the document?

 

[BReeves]

After doing a little more reading I see the protest are coming from California, New York and Maryland. If we don't count the illegals they may loose house or senate seats... Now I get it.

 

[Fyrtwuck]

ummm, is not the 5th amendment for citizens, not alien "visitors" ? since when does our constitution include alien "visitors" having rights enumerated in the document?

I see your point and I don’t know the answer. I have a card with Miranda rights on it. One side is in English, the other side is in Spanish.

I’ve never dealt with that particular situation, so I don’t know what rights they do or don’t have when they step across the border. I’d be calling for a supervisor or higher authority. If I were arrested in another country, I’d expect to be subject to their laws. Also, I know if I were arrested in another county, I’d be screaming for the consulate or an attorney or both. Whether I received either would be the question.

 

[Aries]

I would think the same rights as apply to citizens would apply to aliens, legal or otherwise. You wouldn't expect even someone in the country illegally to be compelled to testify against themselves, denied the right to speak to an attorney, or be held indefinitely without being charged. Seems to me that the rights of the accused are basically restrictions against what the government can do, which restrictions would apply universally.

But I'm not a lawyer, I'm just speculating...