Conceal Carry in bars and taverns

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Should conceal carry be allowed in bars and taverns?

  • Yes

    Votes: 125 56.8%
  • No

    Votes: 95 43.2%

  • Total voters
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redmax51

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Maybe we should have two discussions.

1) Should responsible citizens be allowed to carry in places that serve alcohol primarily?

2) Is it responsible to consume any alcohol when carrying, if so, how much?

My answer to 1 is absolutely yes.

On 2, I would suggest No. But I'm still thinking about it. I do however adamantly believe that the two are separate issues. I can drink at home, at a friends, outdoors, at a bar, or at a restaurant... did I miss any? It doesn't matter where I drink, if I do, I cannot responsibly do certain other things after.

I think that is where it's important to know your limits.I don't think most people's judgement would be impaired by a glass of wine at dinner.I also believe that most people who go to the trouble of getting a conceal carry permit are more responsible than the population as a whole.That's why you haven't seen a whole rash of shootings by them. Steve
 

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I think that is where it's important to know your limits.I don't think most people's judgement would be impaired by a glass of wine at dinner.I also believe that most people who go to the trouble of getting a conceal carry permit are more responsible than the population as a whole.That's why you haven't seen a whole rash of shootings by them. Steve

Exactly.

Just because something is bad, wrong, evil or dangerous doesn't mean it should be illegal.
 

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I voted yes. There are plenty of reasons to go to bars without drinking. Food, pool, DD, etc. So yes, you should be able to carry at a bar as long as you aren't drinking.

In terms of there being a BAC limit...that's a whole 'nother discussion. Although drinking and driving is illegal, society has deemed it appropriate to drink a little and then drive. Would that apply to this situation? I don't know.

I'd be perfectly satisfied if we could carry in bars provided we have nothing to drink.
 

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So you're saying you think guns are bad,wrong,and evil?? I think you might be in the wrong house. Steve

You're way off. But just because you're wrong doesn't mean we should outlaw your ability to use this board, or the internet. Freedom is worth the cost, which in this case is me having to re-explain what I thought was an extremely simple concept.

Open-carry: not great for every given situation, probably not a good idea at Applebees, but there's no need to make it illegal.

Motorcycle helmet laws: The OK legislature got this one right. It's smart to wear one, but there's no need to make it illegal to ride without out.

Seatbelts: stats generally indicate that wearing them saves lives, but honestly, illegal not to wear one? We all know what it's a $25 ticket, purely to raise money, nothing to do with actual safety, and a bad law.

Smoking: bad idea, unhealthy, possibly evil, but low and behold, it's not illegal

Porn: a lot of people think it's evil, some would even call it sinful, but making illegal is laughable.

Name-calling: bad idea, maybe wrong, maybe evil, not illegal.

Drinking spoiled milk, cutting yourself, fried foods, partially hydrogenated oil....are you getting the picture yet or shall I try a third time?
 

Quick_Draw_McGraw

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Maybe we should have two discussions.

1) Should responsible citizens be allowed to carry in places that serve alcohol primarily?

2) Is it responsible to consume any alcohol when carrying, if so, how much?

My answer to 1 is absolutely yes.

On 2, I would suggest No. But I'm still thinking about it. I do however adamantly believe that the two are separate issues. I can drink at home, at a friends, outdoors, at a bar, or at a restaurant... did I miss any? It doesn't matter where I drink, if I do, I cannot responsibly do certain other things after.

I would have to agree with you, there really are two conversations here. Although I think you should switch the order of those conversations.

I think the question of is responsible to consume alcohol while carrying is the most important question to ask. The where ( bar, friends house, restaurant ) is really a secondary question.
 

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I think the order of the questions is really insignificant if you are too look at them as two separate questions. Sure the second part might be more morally important, but it doesn't necessarily go first because if you are going to an establishment that primarily serves alcohol with a reason other than drinking then the question of responsible consumption is null and void. However it is still valid to know if it is legal to carry in that place.

So I guess in the eyes of legality I like the original order of separation of the conversations.
 

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