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Concealed Carry an unserialized firearm legal???
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<blockquote data-quote="Dave70968" data-source="post: 3079368" data-attributes="member: 13624"><p>I'm not aware of any law against it. Would a prosecutor try to make hay of it? Possibly; a lot of them will use anything they can find to prejudice a defendant, even if it's irrelevant. See, <em>e.g.</em>, the <a href="http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/8860049814" target="_blank">Gary Fadden incident</a>, a good shoot if ever I've heard one, that gave the persecutor (<em>not</em> a typo!) a hard-on because the shooter used a (lawfully-possessed) machine gun; this is the story that gave us the famous last words "f*** you and your high-powered rifle." The article was written by Massad Ayoob, a name we should all know as an expert in self-defense and the law relating to it.</p><p></p><p>The persecutor went full-court press against Mr. Fadden, and there was nothing legally questionable about the shoot or his possession of the machine gun. Throw in the fact that "everybody knows" guns have to have serial numbers (yes, a few of us know better), and you have the makings of a prosecution based on innuendo and half-truths ("he wanted to make a gun so that he'd be 'off the books,' to hide what he was doing!"). Pay close attention to this paragraph:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Politically incorrect "assault weapons" make politically incorrect defendants. Though he didn't say it in so many words, prosecutor Jack Robbins' case against Fadden seemed to be, "I say, Muffy, people of breeding simply don't shoot criminals with machine guns in Fairfax County! Now, had he used a civilized weapon like a Browning Superposed ... and preferably shot him on the rise ... "</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>Proper legal foundation? Hell no. You're doing nothing illegal by carrying that homebuilt pistol (at least not to the best of my knowledge of the laws of Oklahoma). The real question is, do you want to write <em>big</em> checks to a lawyer to demonstrate that?</p><p></p><p>As for myself, I'll carry factory-made guns, thanks. I don't see a problem with changing sights, or springs, or the mainspring housing on my 1911 (the arched version just fits my hand better), but things that will force me to get into a detailed explanation of subtle points of law to a jury? Pass.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave70968, post: 3079368, member: 13624"] I'm not aware of any law against it. Would a prosecutor try to make hay of it? Possibly; a lot of them will use anything they can find to prejudice a defendant, even if it's irrelevant. See, [I]e.g.[/I], the [URL='http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/8860049814']Gary Fadden incident[/URL], a good shoot if ever I've heard one, that gave the persecutor ([I]not[/I] a typo!) a hard-on because the shooter used a (lawfully-possessed) machine gun; this is the story that gave us the famous last words "f*** you and your high-powered rifle." The article was written by Massad Ayoob, a name we should all know as an expert in self-defense and the law relating to it. The persecutor went full-court press against Mr. Fadden, and there was nothing legally questionable about the shoot or his possession of the machine gun. Throw in the fact that "everybody knows" guns have to have serial numbers (yes, a few of us know better), and you have the makings of a prosecution based on innuendo and half-truths ("he wanted to make a gun so that he'd be 'off the books,' to hide what he was doing!"). Pay close attention to this paragraph: [INDENT] Politically incorrect "assault weapons" make politically incorrect defendants. Though he didn't say it in so many words, prosecutor Jack Robbins' case against Fadden seemed to be, "I say, Muffy, people of breeding simply don't shoot criminals with machine guns in Fairfax County! Now, had he used a civilized weapon like a Browning Superposed ... and preferably shot him on the rise ... " [/INDENT] Proper legal foundation? Hell no. You're doing nothing illegal by carrying that homebuilt pistol (at least not to the best of my knowledge of the laws of Oklahoma). The real question is, do you want to write [I]big[/I] checks to a lawyer to demonstrate that? As for myself, I'll carry factory-made guns, thanks. I don't see a problem with changing sights, or springs, or the mainspring housing on my 1911 (the arched version just fits my hand better), but things that will force me to get into a detailed explanation of subtle points of law to a jury? Pass. [/QUOTE]
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