Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
Latest activity
Classifieds
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Log in
Register
What's New?
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More Options
Advertise with us
Contact Us
Close Menu
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Forums
Competition, Tactics & Training
Self Defense & Handgun Carry
Concealed Carry Ballistics: Challenging the Stopping Power Conventional Wisdom
Search titles only
By:
Reply to Thread
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="druryj" data-source="post: 3222117" data-attributes="member: 10465"><p>If all I had was FMJ in 9mm, I wouldn’t quake in fear, nah, not even. I’d be fine carrying plain old ball ammo until I could replenish my stock with something better like HST, Gold Dots, or Critical Defense. Sure standard 9mm JHP and certainly FMJ (ball) are in no way as good as a quality Bonded Jacketed HP round. But as was pointed out by [USER=40522]@lasher[/USER], a whole buncha bad guys have been shot dead with ball ammo. People scoff at FMJ; but one positive factor in its favor is it generally feeds and functions very well in about any pistol. Some modern JHP or BJHP won’t be quite so reliable in some pistols though. You have to test until you’re satisfied. A negative thing about FMJ is it won’t expand. It will just poke a hole of the diameter of the bullet in you. Oh; is that all? I dunno about you guys, but I don’t think I want any really hot pieces of lead poking holes in me. Imagine taking two hits to the sternum with plain old 9mm ball ammo. ( Crack goes your breastbone; make a wish!) Now, you think you are still going to try to do bad things? Odds are going down...betcha it’s gonna give a bad guy a “pause to consider” moment anyway, and during that pause, another ball round or two might poke a hole in his forehead, and that will solve the issue, regardless of jacket separation or failure to expand or whatever. Another factor about various pistol caliber rounds whether 9mm, .40, or .45... they are still just pistol rounds coming out of a short barrel. So, I don’t carry ball ammo, because the good stuff is better. But even the best of the premium pistol rounds is still just a pistol round. Poke some holes in the bad guy and press the fight until you decide it’s over. I have seen many and felt one gunshot wound. They hurt like hell! Shock will often incapacitate a bad guy quickly; no one really wants to get shot. Shock comes from sudden impact, pain, and the psychological realization that you have just been shot. Oh; and blood loss. </p><p></p><p>Everyone has an opinion, I say carry what runs your gun, what you can shoot it well with, and carry on. </p><p></p><p>(ps: I normally use Fed HST 124gr, the same in Gold Dots, or Hornady Critical Defense 115gr. I buy enough to rotate it through every so often. I’m sure there are others out there just as good, maybe better, but I know and trust those three and can often find good sales on them. It’s not uncommon to find HST at less than $20 per box of 50 these days. At that price, buy ‘em cheap and stack ‘em deep).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="druryj, post: 3222117, member: 10465"] If all I had was FMJ in 9mm, I wouldn’t quake in fear, nah, not even. I’d be fine carrying plain old ball ammo until I could replenish my stock with something better like HST, Gold Dots, or Critical Defense. Sure standard 9mm JHP and certainly FMJ (ball) are in no way as good as a quality Bonded Jacketed HP round. But as was pointed out by [USER=40522]@lasher[/USER], a whole buncha bad guys have been shot dead with ball ammo. People scoff at FMJ; but one positive factor in its favor is it generally feeds and functions very well in about any pistol. Some modern JHP or BJHP won’t be quite so reliable in some pistols though. You have to test until you’re satisfied. A negative thing about FMJ is it won’t expand. It will just poke a hole of the diameter of the bullet in you. Oh; is that all? I dunno about you guys, but I don’t think I want any really hot pieces of lead poking holes in me. Imagine taking two hits to the sternum with plain old 9mm ball ammo. ( Crack goes your breastbone; make a wish!) Now, you think you are still going to try to do bad things? Odds are going down...betcha it’s gonna give a bad guy a “pause to consider” moment anyway, and during that pause, another ball round or two might poke a hole in his forehead, and that will solve the issue, regardless of jacket separation or failure to expand or whatever. Another factor about various pistol caliber rounds whether 9mm, .40, or .45... they are still just pistol rounds coming out of a short barrel. So, I don’t carry ball ammo, because the good stuff is better. But even the best of the premium pistol rounds is still just a pistol round. Poke some holes in the bad guy and press the fight until you decide it’s over. I have seen many and felt one gunshot wound. They hurt like hell! Shock will often incapacitate a bad guy quickly; no one really wants to get shot. Shock comes from sudden impact, pain, and the psychological realization that you have just been shot. Oh; and blood loss. Everyone has an opinion, I say carry what runs your gun, what you can shoot it well with, and carry on. (ps: I normally use Fed HST 124gr, the same in Gold Dots, or Hornady Critical Defense 115gr. I buy enough to rotate it through every so often. I’m sure there are others out there just as good, maybe better, but I know and trust those three and can often find good sales on them. It’s not uncommon to find HST at less than $20 per box of 50 these days. At that price, buy ‘em cheap and stack ‘em deep). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
Insert Quotes…
Verification
Post Reply
Forums
Competition, Tactics & Training
Self Defense & Handgun Carry
Concealed Carry Ballistics: Challenging the Stopping Power Conventional Wisdom
Search titles only
By:
Top
Bottom