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<blockquote data-quote="NightShade" data-source="post: 3111183" data-attributes="member: 29706"><p>Agree 100 percent. Figure your income and expenses for a month. Now once you figure that out, take the amount of your rent/mortgage, phone, vehicle expenses and food (not eating out that is entertainment) and cut 100 bucks off of it and limit yourself to that for a month. Better yet limit yourself to 930 per month and see if you can make it. </p><p></p><p>The average person in Oklahoma who retires gets around 1000 per month. If they are disabled they get around 930 per month. In a two income household you will probably be lucky to break 2000 per month and if both are disabled feel lucky to break 1500. <a href="https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/state_stats/2005/ok.html" target="_blank">https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/state_stats/2005/ok.html</a> Oh but wait, regular old medicare is 100 per month and for something that actually covers something more than a stubbed toe you are looking at something closer to 250 per month. Now add the 250 per month for meds and co-pays. BTW that is per person not as a family. So just shave that right off the top or fight the doctors to find generics, if you are diabetic plan to buy old plain N and R insulin and syringes cause those fancy pens will eat up the amount they will pay so that you end up in the doughnut hole and have to pay for 100 percent of stuff for another 2000 bucks which I can bet means you get ZERO of any med that is more than 20 bucks per month. And another thing, in the gap you still pay premiums for no coverage, what fun is that. </p><p></p><p>And cost of living increases do not include energy costs.... Gas jumps to five bucks per gallon you had better plan to park the car and leave once a month so get all the doctor appointments (at least 4) all on the same day. And shopping is only once a month so if you are currently living paycheck to paycheck think about how rough it's going to be when you only get one per month. All those credit cards will be maxed within 6 months so hopefully you rent otherwise you had better put the house in the kids name tonight since they will take you to court and you can lose the house. And welcome to the world of 35% interest plus loans and remember the car you have now is the car you will have in 15 or 20 years. So hopefully you have something that is really new, built to last, and has cheap tires. I mean think about your income and expenses and then throw in a set of tires at 150 each or more every couple of years, god forbid someone coming through and randomly cutting the sidewalls of multiple cars like what happened where I lived a couple years ago.</p><p></p><p>So who wants to go out and do stupid crap and get hurt and no longer be able to work? Doesn't matter if it's on or off the job either. You think workers comp is going to pay out and give you extra... Wrong. BOHICA... I know a woman who was hurt at work, while they received workers comp they filed for social security and the exact amount they received from the workers comp was deducted from the social security including the settlement. Your best chance is to have a million dollar life insurance policy and to get hit by a tractor trailer that runs a red light and then a train jumps the tracks at the exact same time and finishes the job off.</p><p></p><p>It all makes that fee seem just a little farther off doesn't it? Yeah a little extra can be made here and there or you can not buy shoes for a couple years let alone clothes to be able to do it but eventually the shoes wear out and the clothes have holes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NightShade, post: 3111183, member: 29706"] Agree 100 percent. Figure your income and expenses for a month. Now once you figure that out, take the amount of your rent/mortgage, phone, vehicle expenses and food (not eating out that is entertainment) and cut 100 bucks off of it and limit yourself to that for a month. Better yet limit yourself to 930 per month and see if you can make it. The average person in Oklahoma who retires gets around 1000 per month. If they are disabled they get around 930 per month. In a two income household you will probably be lucky to break 2000 per month and if both are disabled feel lucky to break 1500. [URL]https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/state_stats/2005/ok.html[/URL] Oh but wait, regular old medicare is 100 per month and for something that actually covers something more than a stubbed toe you are looking at something closer to 250 per month. Now add the 250 per month for meds and co-pays. BTW that is per person not as a family. So just shave that right off the top or fight the doctors to find generics, if you are diabetic plan to buy old plain N and R insulin and syringes cause those fancy pens will eat up the amount they will pay so that you end up in the doughnut hole and have to pay for 100 percent of stuff for another 2000 bucks which I can bet means you get ZERO of any med that is more than 20 bucks per month. And another thing, in the gap you still pay premiums for no coverage, what fun is that. And cost of living increases do not include energy costs.... Gas jumps to five bucks per gallon you had better plan to park the car and leave once a month so get all the doctor appointments (at least 4) all on the same day. And shopping is only once a month so if you are currently living paycheck to paycheck think about how rough it's going to be when you only get one per month. All those credit cards will be maxed within 6 months so hopefully you rent otherwise you had better put the house in the kids name tonight since they will take you to court and you can lose the house. And welcome to the world of 35% interest plus loans and remember the car you have now is the car you will have in 15 or 20 years. So hopefully you have something that is really new, built to last, and has cheap tires. I mean think about your income and expenses and then throw in a set of tires at 150 each or more every couple of years, god forbid someone coming through and randomly cutting the sidewalls of multiple cars like what happened where I lived a couple years ago. So who wants to go out and do stupid crap and get hurt and no longer be able to work? Doesn't matter if it's on or off the job either. You think workers comp is going to pay out and give you extra... Wrong. BOHICA... I know a woman who was hurt at work, while they received workers comp they filed for social security and the exact amount they received from the workers comp was deducted from the social security including the settlement. Your best chance is to have a million dollar life insurance policy and to get hit by a tractor trailer that runs a red light and then a train jumps the tracks at the exact same time and finishes the job off. It all makes that fee seem just a little farther off doesn't it? Yeah a little extra can be made here and there or you can not buy shoes for a couple years let alone clothes to be able to do it but eventually the shoes wear out and the clothes have holes. [/QUOTE]
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