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Discussion in 'News Links' started by Timmy59, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. TerryMiller

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    Dependent entirely upon who is doing the writing and what conditions are placed upon them by the states to keep them in check. And, since I'm not sure that the people would be voting for such a document instead of legislatures, I'm hesitant to take a chance like that.
     
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    So, their basic position is that making things that are already unconstitutional even more unconstitutional is the solution?

    Where have I heard that argument before?
     
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    The most significant proposals are amendments that would impose specific fiscal limitations on the federal government and term limits for federal offices. Other than term limits for the President, neither of those are current constitutional provisions.
     
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    Don’t need a CC to do that.
     
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    How do you figure?
     
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    There's already a process for amending the Constitution. There's no reason for a constitutional convention or a convention of states to do single-task jobs like that.
     
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    That runs into the issue that the United States Congress is the problem that needs to be addressed. We can’t rely on Congress to propose by a supermajority the amendments needed to reduce their own power.
     
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    Additionally, an Article V convention would be a more productive and balanced forum for proposing and refining the language of any proposed amendments. If Congress proposes an amendment but some states, while agreeing with the objective, have an objection to the language, Congress would have to propose a new amendment to change the language, meaning it would require another supermajority vote. At a convention, the commissioners from every state can work out the details of the amendments, and if any don’t get enough votes to be proposed (50%), they can be tweaked and voted on again before the convention ends. The limited focus of the convention would ensure the best chance of coming out with proposed amendments that are effective at addressing the problems we have and have the highest likelihood of being ratified. With how dysfunctional Congress is that’s never going to happen if we leave it up to them.
     
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    I might could sign onto such an idea, provided that we could be assured that a majority of the "commissioners" were of the nature of Mason. I seriously doubt that is possible.
     

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