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<blockquote data-quote="Rez Exelon" data-source="post: 3559575" data-attributes="member: 5800"><p>The funny thing is that I think most people in society WANT the police to be respected. I think most people DO think that cops discharge their duties honorably. But also what people see is that the same "honorable" ones will circle the wagons around the bad ones. No. Matter. What. How many times in the last year, the last few years has video come out with some dirty dirty on it and all the public will ever see is "we investigated ourselves and we find ourselves innocent." Like the release of information the other day that said the guy getting shot 7 times in the back was within department policy and training. How is that better? 7 times in the back of an invader in any of our homes and we're doing 20-life no questions asked. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/13/jacob-blake-shooting-kenosha-police-officer-back-work/7212525002/" target="_blank">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/13/jacob-blake-shooting-kenosha-police-officer-back-work/7212525002/</a></p><p></p><p>I saw a story the other day where a cop got off with a slap on the wrist after raping someone on-duty in his car because it was said "no one could prove consent wasn't given". I'd love to be able to cite that, but googling for "cop rapes woman in his car" brings up a sickening amount of results. Either way, I was on a jury that put someone in jail for 30 years for rape because of threat, and there's little to no way, in my mind, that someone is going to convince me a predator cop with a gun, handcuffs, (etc), and a whole system of protections is going to really get "consent". Because as the google results show, there's good reason for them to believe no one will believe the victim, they'll walk with no consequence because of "lack of evidence" or sometimes get a 90 day sentence or similar, when again, any of us would be looking 20-life. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Kind of riffing off my above point, the girl(s) in the stories basically had a choice --- A) cooperate (and get raped) or B) Take their chances. I don't think the choice is quite as binary as your make it out here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rez Exelon, post: 3559575, member: 5800"] The funny thing is that I think most people in society WANT the police to be respected. I think most people DO think that cops discharge their duties honorably. But also what people see is that the same "honorable" ones will circle the wagons around the bad ones. No. Matter. What. How many times in the last year, the last few years has video come out with some dirty dirty on it and all the public will ever see is "we investigated ourselves and we find ourselves innocent." Like the release of information the other day that said the guy getting shot 7 times in the back was within department policy and training. How is that better? 7 times in the back of an invader in any of our homes and we're doing 20-life no questions asked. [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/13/jacob-blake-shooting-kenosha-police-officer-back-work/7212525002/[/URL] I saw a story the other day where a cop got off with a slap on the wrist after raping someone on-duty in his car because it was said "no one could prove consent wasn't given". I'd love to be able to cite that, but googling for "cop rapes woman in his car" brings up a sickening amount of results. Either way, I was on a jury that put someone in jail for 30 years for rape because of threat, and there's little to no way, in my mind, that someone is going to convince me a predator cop with a gun, handcuffs, (etc), and a whole system of protections is going to really get "consent". Because as the google results show, there's good reason for them to believe no one will believe the victim, they'll walk with no consequence because of "lack of evidence" or sometimes get a 90 day sentence or similar, when again, any of us would be looking 20-life. Kind of riffing off my above point, the girl(s) in the stories basically had a choice --- A) cooperate (and get raped) or B) Take their chances. I don't think the choice is quite as binary as your make it out here. [/QUOTE]
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