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<blockquote data-quote="wawazat" data-source="post: 3627049" data-attributes="member: 35603"><p>My wife and I talk about this a lot regarding the kids. I got a full ride to UCO and got a business degree with a focus on employment law. It was purely to check a box for the job I was seeking out at the time and has been absolutely useless for anything more than that. She joined the Air Guard to get her business degree paid for. I think if the only way someone can attend college is to go into debt, they will not see the jump start to their earning potential that a degree may provide. Paying off the school debt will more than absorb any extra earning potential.</p><p></p><p>I hold to the belief as mentioned many times in this thread that if a young person can find where a marketable skill (college or trade school) overlaps with something they have a passion for, they will have the best chance of being successful at something they enjoy doing. My son isn't a huge fan of school, but we put in the work at home helping him with things he is struggling with so he at least doesnt get overwhelmed. He really enjoys history and science, but I am not sure he and math will ever be friends haha. </p><p></p><p>I also think he will benefit with some extra time after high school to mature a little more before thinking about jumping into pursuing a degree if that is the path he chooses. I would've certainly benefitted from a few years of growing up before picking a 4 year training program to drive the rest of my working life. I really think this is where military would benefit a lot more young adults than take advantage of it. My wife and I do agree that there are many great traits to be gained through military experience that cannot be gained any other way. It is certainly one of my biggest regrets in how I navigated life through my late teens and twenties.</p><p></p><p>My daughter is completely polar to her brother. She is a sponge for information and actively seeks out answers to whichever random question pops into her head. Her curiosity and drive to find answers will serve her well, we just have to find ways to expose her to enough experiences and topics that she can figure out which types of things give her the most satisfaction to figure out.</p><p></p><p>In the end, I think degree, trade school, entrepreneur, career military, etc. will benefit the people that are naturally driven down the path. Forcing someone to pursue something they have no interest in is an injustice to their quality of life. I think a lot of it is driven by trying to live vicariously through our kids and having tunnel vision on what success is based on our own choices and regrets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wawazat, post: 3627049, member: 35603"] My wife and I talk about this a lot regarding the kids. I got a full ride to UCO and got a business degree with a focus on employment law. It was purely to check a box for the job I was seeking out at the time and has been absolutely useless for anything more than that. She joined the Air Guard to get her business degree paid for. I think if the only way someone can attend college is to go into debt, they will not see the jump start to their earning potential that a degree may provide. Paying off the school debt will more than absorb any extra earning potential. I hold to the belief as mentioned many times in this thread that if a young person can find where a marketable skill (college or trade school) overlaps with something they have a passion for, they will have the best chance of being successful at something they enjoy doing. My son isn't a huge fan of school, but we put in the work at home helping him with things he is struggling with so he at least doesnt get overwhelmed. He really enjoys history and science, but I am not sure he and math will ever be friends haha. I also think he will benefit with some extra time after high school to mature a little more before thinking about jumping into pursuing a degree if that is the path he chooses. I would've certainly benefitted from a few years of growing up before picking a 4 year training program to drive the rest of my working life. I really think this is where military would benefit a lot more young adults than take advantage of it. My wife and I do agree that there are many great traits to be gained through military experience that cannot be gained any other way. It is certainly one of my biggest regrets in how I navigated life through my late teens and twenties. My daughter is completely polar to her brother. She is a sponge for information and actively seeks out answers to whichever random question pops into her head. Her curiosity and drive to find answers will serve her well, we just have to find ways to expose her to enough experiences and topics that she can figure out which types of things give her the most satisfaction to figure out. In the end, I think degree, trade school, entrepreneur, career military, etc. will benefit the people that are naturally driven down the path. Forcing someone to pursue something they have no interest in is an injustice to their quality of life. I think a lot of it is driven by trying to live vicariously through our kids and having tunnel vision on what success is based on our own choices and regrets. [/QUOTE]
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