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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 3125897" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>With all the fake news and manufactured crisis around this topic, I did some research. First, this entire mess centers around the Flores Consent Decree of 1997 (FCD). The FCD isn't a law. It's a stipulated agreement between the U.S. and the plaintiffs, headed by alien minor Jenny Lisette Flores and certified as a class action suit.</p><p></p><p>Here it is in all its glory:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2018/06/flores-consent-decree-of-1997-full-text/" target="_blank">https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2018/06/flores-consent-decree-of-1997-full-text/</a></p><p></p><p>The FCD doesn't require the U.S. to separate detained unlawful entrant families. It does however implicitly ALLOW doing so, should the entrants refuse voluntary deportation as a group and file for temporary or permanent status in the U.S. It also demands the release of all minors "without unnecessary delay". So if the proceedings require the detention of the adult unlawful entrants to facilitate prosecution or otherwise adjudicate their status, the U.S. will have to separate the minors from the adults to process them for release.</p><p></p><p>Under what terms does that happen?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>President Trump ran on and is delivering on his promise to enforce our immigration laws. He's also repeatedly asked the legislature to overhaul the immigration laws. How does the FCD factor in? It sets up a "Catch 22" that actively discourages enforcement of immigration law in applicable cases. If we enforce the law, we incur detention costs and processing costs to house and care for both the adults and minors. It forces us to separate the families and release the minors, in most cases into the U.S. It creates a compelling emotional case for those driven by their emotions over the facts and rule of law. This is what the Democrats and the media are utilizing to punish the Trump Administration for enforcing immigration law. The only way the Trump Administration can avoid this appearance of so-called "cruelty" and "internment camps", is to stop enforcing the law and release the unlawful entrants into the U.S. without bond or oversight.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, and remember that manufactured crisis about the Trump Administration "losing nearly 1,500 kids" that had been taken from their parents? Refer back to the above quote and order of priority A. thru F. Now read this:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://time.com/5296637/trump-administration-lose-immigrant-children/" target="_blank">http://time.com/5296637/trump-administration-lose-immigrant-children/</a></p><p></p><p>Specifically this portion:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those "sponsors" are an important point because:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's right, the FCD that proponents of unlawful immigration forced the U.S. into back in 1997, mandates that the U.S. allow people in categories A. thru F. to sign for the release of those minors (making them legally liable for those minors) and swear they'll follow the requirements above, which they did not do in the cases of those "missing" 1,475 non-U.S. minors. Understand that many unlawful entrants to the U.S. with minors are very well aware of the FCD, and have been exploiting that loophole since 1997.</p><p></p><p>Tl;dr, 21 years ago, illegal immigrants won a stipulated settlement from the U.S. that discouraged enforcement of immigration law. Trump delivers on his campaign promise to enforce immigration laws. Histrionic hyperbole and manufactured crisis ensues from the left. Democrats in the legislature refuse to work in a bipartisan manner to fix the broken immigration law, because that would close the FCD loophole benefitting illegal immigrants and rob them of a glorious P.R. weapon against Trump.</p><p></p><p>Feel free to discuss or provide counterpoints.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 3125897, member: 1132"] With all the fake news and manufactured crisis around this topic, I did some research. First, this entire mess centers around the Flores Consent Decree of 1997 (FCD). The FCD isn't a law. It's a stipulated agreement between the U.S. and the plaintiffs, headed by alien minor Jenny Lisette Flores and certified as a class action suit. Here it is in all its glory: [URL]https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2018/06/flores-consent-decree-of-1997-full-text/[/URL] The FCD doesn't require the U.S. to separate detained unlawful entrant families. It does however implicitly ALLOW doing so, should the entrants refuse voluntary deportation as a group and file for temporary or permanent status in the U.S. It also demands the release of all minors "without unnecessary delay". So if the proceedings require the detention of the adult unlawful entrants to facilitate prosecution or otherwise adjudicate their status, the U.S. will have to separate the minors from the adults to process them for release. Under what terms does that happen? President Trump ran on and is delivering on his promise to enforce our immigration laws. He's also repeatedly asked the legislature to overhaul the immigration laws. How does the FCD factor in? It sets up a "Catch 22" that actively discourages enforcement of immigration law in applicable cases. If we enforce the law, we incur detention costs and processing costs to house and care for both the adults and minors. It forces us to separate the families and release the minors, in most cases into the U.S. It creates a compelling emotional case for those driven by their emotions over the facts and rule of law. This is what the Democrats and the media are utilizing to punish the Trump Administration for enforcing immigration law. The only way the Trump Administration can avoid this appearance of so-called "cruelty" and "internment camps", is to stop enforcing the law and release the unlawful entrants into the U.S. without bond or oversight. Oh, and remember that manufactured crisis about the Trump Administration "losing nearly 1,500 kids" that had been taken from their parents? Refer back to the above quote and order of priority A. thru F. Now read this: [URL]http://time.com/5296637/trump-administration-lose-immigrant-children/[/URL] Specifically this portion: Those "sponsors" are an important point because: That's right, the FCD that proponents of unlawful immigration forced the U.S. into back in 1997, mandates that the U.S. allow people in categories A. thru F. to sign for the release of those minors (making them legally liable for those minors) and swear they'll follow the requirements above, which they did not do in the cases of those "missing" 1,475 non-U.S. minors. Understand that many unlawful entrants to the U.S. with minors are very well aware of the FCD, and have been exploiting that loophole since 1997. Tl;dr, 21 years ago, illegal immigrants won a stipulated settlement from the U.S. that discouraged enforcement of immigration law. Trump delivers on his campaign promise to enforce immigration laws. Histrionic hyperbole and manufactured crisis ensues from the left. Democrats in the legislature refuse to work in a bipartisan manner to fix the broken immigration law, because that would close the FCD loophole benefitting illegal immigrants and rob them of a glorious P.R. weapon against Trump. Feel free to discuss or provide counterpoints. [/QUOTE]
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