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Disected Factory Remington .308 ammo. Acuracy OCW?
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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 2767433" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>Many times at the ranges I visit there are people trying to adjust their scopes for the hunt.</p><p>I help out if they look like they want some help.</p><p>Lots of them shoot Remington box ammo that they picked up at Wally world.</p><p></p><p>Now I have had No luck with this ammo except in a 336 30-30.</p><p></p><p>Most groups I see from the 308's are in the all are fliers range MOA of slice of bread if you are lucky.</p><p>I have given these guys some of my handloaded 308 ammo to try and groups shrink to 1"-1.5" or really close to that.</p><p></p><p>So one guy headed for a hunt in 3 days was not happy and I gave him 4 rounds of my accurate hunting ammo we just tested in his gun to take hunting.</p><p>Yes I lost 4 Lapua cases.</p><p></p><p>But I got in trade 4 cases of factory loaded Remington 150gr ammo.</p><p>I finally took it apart today and measured things to see why this ammo was not accurate.</p><p></p><p>Long story short I feel it is just not a good charge weight.</p><p></p><p>Details.</p><p>Powder looks just like BL-C(2) but not as shiny (it is more dull grey).</p><p>Powder comes to the base of the shoulder(not compressed)</p><p>Charge weights were: 46.4gr., 46.3gr., 46.3gr., 46.25gr.</p><p></p><p>Bullet weights. 150.9gr., 151.4., 151.4., 151.3.</p><p>Neck OD after pulling bullets with inertia puller all the same .335"</p><p>Neck ID 3 at .308" 1 at .3075"</p><p>Measurement to shoulder datum within .002" of each other.</p><p>Case base sizes all exactly the same.</p><p></p><p>Case weight with primers. 170.7gr., 171.2gr., and 2 at 171.7gr.</p><p>Trim length 2.05-2.07</p><p></p><p>The bullet after being pulled had scratches on the bearing surface it is a flat base spitzer with cannelure.</p><p></p><p>I did not test how much pressure it took to pull the bullet from the case as this would make powder fall onto the floor and i need to drill a hole through the bullet to do so.</p><p></p><p>So looks like the stuff is pretty well on as far as tolerances go.</p><p>When i worked up loads for my .308 with Ball C2 powder and 150gr flat base bullets</p><p>I used Winchester brass and charge weight that worked was 45gr.</p><p></p><p>So maybe it is just not an optimum charge weight for the guns I have seen it shoot out of.</p><p></p><p>I was thinking the factory loads in that Rem yellow and green box were just not in good tolerances.. I was mistaken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 2767433, member: 15054"] Many times at the ranges I visit there are people trying to adjust their scopes for the hunt. I help out if they look like they want some help. Lots of them shoot Remington box ammo that they picked up at Wally world. Now I have had No luck with this ammo except in a 336 30-30. Most groups I see from the 308's are in the all are fliers range MOA of slice of bread if you are lucky. I have given these guys some of my handloaded 308 ammo to try and groups shrink to 1"-1.5" or really close to that. So one guy headed for a hunt in 3 days was not happy and I gave him 4 rounds of my accurate hunting ammo we just tested in his gun to take hunting. Yes I lost 4 Lapua cases. But I got in trade 4 cases of factory loaded Remington 150gr ammo. I finally took it apart today and measured things to see why this ammo was not accurate. Long story short I feel it is just not a good charge weight. Details. Powder looks just like BL-C(2) but not as shiny (it is more dull grey). Powder comes to the base of the shoulder(not compressed) Charge weights were: 46.4gr., 46.3gr., 46.3gr., 46.25gr. Bullet weights. 150.9gr., 151.4., 151.4., 151.3. Neck OD after pulling bullets with inertia puller all the same .335" Neck ID 3 at .308" 1 at .3075" Measurement to shoulder datum within .002" of each other. Case base sizes all exactly the same. Case weight with primers. 170.7gr., 171.2gr., and 2 at 171.7gr. Trim length 2.05-2.07 The bullet after being pulled had scratches on the bearing surface it is a flat base spitzer with cannelure. I did not test how much pressure it took to pull the bullet from the case as this would make powder fall onto the floor and i need to drill a hole through the bullet to do so. So looks like the stuff is pretty well on as far as tolerances go. When i worked up loads for my .308 with Ball C2 powder and 150gr flat base bullets I used Winchester brass and charge weight that worked was 45gr. So maybe it is just not an optimum charge weight for the guns I have seen it shoot out of. I was thinking the factory loads in that Rem yellow and green box were just not in good tolerances.. I was mistaken. [/QUOTE]
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