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<blockquote data-quote="chadh2o" data-source="post: 2993959" data-attributes="member: 40131"><p>Please keep the discussion civil and on point. Teacher pay increase.</p><p></p><p>Why have I not heard anything about what the school systems can do within? I have worked at companies that have had issues with funding and when certain items were wanted or necessary, we all took part in the discussion on how to become more efficient.</p><p>As far as I know, within my school discrict, no attempts have been made to bring the teachers into the loop for making the distict more efficient.</p><p></p><p>Their are 520 public school districts. 77 counties/6.75 districts per county. Most have more than less. 520 school superintendents and staff, 520 curriculum advisors and staff, 520 IT directors and staff, 520 bus systems. You get the drift.</p><p>Why not drop down to 100? Set a minimum for the number of students in a district. The smaller schools can pool with other nearby small schools.</p><p>I grew up outside Chickasha and attended Friend school for elementary and middle. 8th grade graduating class was 17 (students, not my age at the time). We had/have our own buses, superintendent (who is also the "middle school" principal), an elementary principle (because it was a separate building), coaches and athletic director (usually one of the teacher/principal/superintendent, but none the less paid for the position). Why was Friend indepentent? Amber/Pocasset had to merge in the 70's due to finances. Middleburg, Norge, Alex, Dibble all independent school districts with less than 1000 kids in each district, most with less than 500 kids. My daughter's recent graduating class had over 600 in one grade at one of two high schools. Our high school is larger than all of the above mentioned districts combined.</p><p>We, Oklahomans, are not your usual individual because most of us are individuals not a group. This is why the district consolidation has not happened. Those that live in the sticks want the small school in the sticks. I have no problem with that, but being a part of a larger system would streamline, but the small power brokers would loose their grip. </p><p></p><p>Here is a little to what I am talking about</p><p></p><p><a href="http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=34278629&catId=112032" target="_blank">http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=34278629&catId=112032</a></p><p></p><p>Some Oklahoma School Superintendents' Salaries Rise As School Week Shortens</p><p></p><p>Posted: Jan 17, 2017 12:28PM CSTDana Hertneky, News 9</p><p></p><p>Schools in crisis are doing anything they can to save money including going to four day school weeks, but News 9 has learned many of the superintendents in those very same districts are getting big raises.</p><p></p><p>The small district of Atoka has less than a 1,000 students, but according to the Oklahoma Department of Education, in just one year, the salary for the superintendent went up $40,000.</p><p></p><p>In Glencoe, the superintendent's base salary went up $10,000, his total compensation nearly $17,000.</p><p></p><p>In Crescent, the superintendent there went from making $101,000 in 2014 to $118,000 a year later.</p><p></p><p>“This is not a frugal use of money,” said state Sen. Rob Standridge, R-Norman. “I’m a manager, I’m an owner, I would never give myself those types of raises where I couldn’t give my employees those types of raises.”</p><p></p><p>Michael McClaren is the president of the Oklahoma Association of School Administrators. He’s also the superintendent of Claremore schools and the school's financial officer and HR person. He said in small districts, that's often the case, especially when times get tough.</p><p></p><p>“Some of those communities are small enough they might have combined administrative services between a superintendent and a principal. So a local board may have made a decision to put a stipend to that,” he said.</p><p></p><p>For example, when News 9 called the Jennings superintendent in Pawnee who received a $10,000 raise, he told us his base salary remained the same but he took on some extra jobs.</p><p></p><p>But that's why Standridge said the state needs a full audit.</p><p></p><p>“We need to know the full picture of where every penny is going,” Standridge said.</p><p></p><p>McClaren, however, argues those decisions should be left up to the local school boards.</p><p></p><p>“The board knows the best, they’re the closest one to the actual issues of the community,” McClaren said.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chadh2o, post: 2993959, member: 40131"] Please keep the discussion civil and on point. Teacher pay increase. Why have I not heard anything about what the school systems can do within? I have worked at companies that have had issues with funding and when certain items were wanted or necessary, we all took part in the discussion on how to become more efficient. As far as I know, within my school discrict, no attempts have been made to bring the teachers into the loop for making the distict more efficient. Their are 520 public school districts. 77 counties/6.75 districts per county. Most have more than less. 520 school superintendents and staff, 520 curriculum advisors and staff, 520 IT directors and staff, 520 bus systems. You get the drift. Why not drop down to 100? Set a minimum for the number of students in a district. The smaller schools can pool with other nearby small schools. I grew up outside Chickasha and attended Friend school for elementary and middle. 8th grade graduating class was 17 (students, not my age at the time). We had/have our own buses, superintendent (who is also the "middle school" principal), an elementary principle (because it was a separate building), coaches and athletic director (usually one of the teacher/principal/superintendent, but none the less paid for the position). Why was Friend indepentent? Amber/Pocasset had to merge in the 70's due to finances. Middleburg, Norge, Alex, Dibble all independent school districts with less than 1000 kids in each district, most with less than 500 kids. My daughter's recent graduating class had over 600 in one grade at one of two high schools. Our high school is larger than all of the above mentioned districts combined. We, Oklahomans, are not your usual individual because most of us are individuals not a group. This is why the district consolidation has not happened. Those that live in the sticks want the small school in the sticks. I have no problem with that, but being a part of a larger system would streamline, but the small power brokers would loose their grip. Here is a little to what I am talking about [URL]http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=34278629&catId=112032[/URL] Some Oklahoma School Superintendents' Salaries Rise As School Week Shortens Posted: Jan 17, 2017 12:28PM CSTDana Hertneky, News 9 Schools in crisis are doing anything they can to save money including going to four day school weeks, but News 9 has learned many of the superintendents in those very same districts are getting big raises. The small district of Atoka has less than a 1,000 students, but according to the Oklahoma Department of Education, in just one year, the salary for the superintendent went up $40,000. In Glencoe, the superintendent's base salary went up $10,000, his total compensation nearly $17,000. In Crescent, the superintendent there went from making $101,000 in 2014 to $118,000 a year later. “This is not a frugal use of money,” said state Sen. Rob Standridge, R-Norman. “I’m a manager, I’m an owner, I would never give myself those types of raises where I couldn’t give my employees those types of raises.” Michael McClaren is the president of the Oklahoma Association of School Administrators. He’s also the superintendent of Claremore schools and the school's financial officer and HR person. He said in small districts, that's often the case, especially when times get tough. “Some of those communities are small enough they might have combined administrative services between a superintendent and a principal. So a local board may have made a decision to put a stipend to that,” he said. For example, when News 9 called the Jennings superintendent in Pawnee who received a $10,000 raise, he told us his base salary remained the same but he took on some extra jobs. But that's why Standridge said the state needs a full audit. “We need to know the full picture of where every penny is going,” Standridge said. McClaren, however, argues those decisions should be left up to the local school boards. “The board knows the best, they’re the closest one to the actual issues of the community,” McClaren said. Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
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