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<blockquote data-quote="GlockPride" data-source="post: 3609036" data-attributes="member: 12153"><p>The dragunov and those style are rugged and have a certain appeal. I used to own a PSL-54. While not a true dragunov, it is, shall we say in some opinions, a close relative. Absolutely the PSL and the Dragunov are different but there is a huge price variance there as well. It’s like buying a Rock Island vs Wilson Combat in a 1911. You do have to be careful about what grain weight you run through the PSL, lighter is generally better for the weapon. The scope that came with it wasn’t great, so I upgraded with a 1P21 out of Russia via Belarus.</p><p>Accuracy was very meh. On a very good day, about 2.5-3 moa with combloc surplus ammo. Good enough for most Eastern European battle fronts I guess, but I do prefer a bit more accuracy. Not the most comfortable rifle to get behind the stock on and it’s a bit “long”. The biggest deal for me was the hard to get/expense of the 10 round mags. And upgrading parts like the trigger, muzzle break, etc. as there were not as many aftermarket support items then.</p><p>The absolute biggest deal for me that helped me move it along was the corrosive ammo. I hate cleaning guns. And to add that wether you shot 1 round or a hundred, it needed cleaning. Deep cleaning. Like a bucket with ammonia or glass cleaner water to scrub it out. Then dry and re-lubricate. I didn’t want to do that in peace time at home, so I sure wasn’t going to do it in a SHTF environment. Yes, you could get brass cased x54r ammo at the time, but it cost as much or more than premium ammo in .243, .308 and others and was less accurate due to the machining of the barrel, bolt and heavy trigger. So, there again, an AR-10, at the same price with less expensive ammo, shooting better groups without the detailed scrubbing made more sense to me.</p><p>I think that they are cool, they had their place in history and movies, they are ammo finicky and not a ton of support. Would I pick up one of an engagement that I won after everything goes crazy? Yes. Would I choose one or start with one? No! There are much better choices. But, it’s your money, your decision and your life. Scratch that itch if you must.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GlockPride, post: 3609036, member: 12153"] The dragunov and those style are rugged and have a certain appeal. I used to own a PSL-54. While not a true dragunov, it is, shall we say in some opinions, a close relative. Absolutely the PSL and the Dragunov are different but there is a huge price variance there as well. It’s like buying a Rock Island vs Wilson Combat in a 1911. You do have to be careful about what grain weight you run through the PSL, lighter is generally better for the weapon. The scope that came with it wasn’t great, so I upgraded with a 1P21 out of Russia via Belarus. Accuracy was very meh. On a very good day, about 2.5-3 moa with combloc surplus ammo. Good enough for most Eastern European battle fronts I guess, but I do prefer a bit more accuracy. Not the most comfortable rifle to get behind the stock on and it’s a bit “long”. The biggest deal for me was the hard to get/expense of the 10 round mags. And upgrading parts like the trigger, muzzle break, etc. as there were not as many aftermarket support items then. The absolute biggest deal for me that helped me move it along was the corrosive ammo. I hate cleaning guns. And to add that wether you shot 1 round or a hundred, it needed cleaning. Deep cleaning. Like a bucket with ammonia or glass cleaner water to scrub it out. Then dry and re-lubricate. I didn’t want to do that in peace time at home, so I sure wasn’t going to do it in a SHTF environment. Yes, you could get brass cased x54r ammo at the time, but it cost as much or more than premium ammo in .243, .308 and others and was less accurate due to the machining of the barrel, bolt and heavy trigger. So, there again, an AR-10, at the same price with less expensive ammo, shooting better groups without the detailed scrubbing made more sense to me. I think that they are cool, they had their place in history and movies, they are ammo finicky and not a ton of support. Would I pick up one of an engagement that I won after everything goes crazy? Yes. Would I choose one or start with one? No! There are much better choices. But, it’s your money, your decision and your life. Scratch that itch if you must. [/QUOTE]
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