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<blockquote data-quote="Barrett" data-source="post: 252459" data-attributes="member: 883"><p>Okay, now ponder this. The "police" cannot search your home or car without "due process" or acting on something "in plain sight." Then, to all those "I just will not support the companies that do this or that..."</p><p>I am a paramedic, work for the largest service in the land(Oklahoma) you know the name... No weapons on the person/employee or in your vehicle if parked on company property, and it is an offense (they will fire you) if you do not park in their lot. Yet, while attatched to the local SWAT team we carry weapons and even deploy from a "company vehicle." So, unless you're gonna' be your own paramedic, you really can't call another company or provider. Plus, on both ends of the turnpike, the geographic and socio-economic placement of my place of employment would tend to increase the chances of an incident that would require the use of force.</p><p></p><p>But, ponder this, in the work place violence. If you're mad enough to walk to the truck and get a weapon and return and use it. If the walk to the truck didn't phase you, like the cute girl from accounting smiling as you walked out, what's to say you would not drive to the house or wherever the weapons were and return. And, why did noone notice Joe Shotgun was: tense, quiet, pissed, angered, flustered, peeved or whatever during the said meeting or on his way to get the weapons. Much less his return trip. Asking for permission to defend yourself cost Luby's a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, when that guy drove into the one in Texas, and proceded to shoot the people and place up. Yeah, a young woman had taken her parents to lunch that day, she had a concealed carry permit and a big ole' wheel gun in her purse, got to the door of the restaurant and seen the No Weapons Allowed **the pic of a pistol in a circle with a line drawn through it**, turned around and went back to her personal vehicle and secured said weapon. After the incident, Luby's hady to pay her for the loss of her parents(both), because the powers that be(judges, lawyers, jury) felt as though the young women could have not only defended herself and parents, but ended the incident. The court also ruled that the nifty sign "implies" that the establishment that posts it assumes the liability of "No weapons allowed...Because We Will Protect You!"</p><p></p><p>There in lies my dilema, the company I work for places me in harms way, without the ability to "call in fire upon my location" because the best I can get sometimes is "the .... department will not give out ETA's, the job/call has been assigned" while I am on duty. I will allow even less of a reaction when I am on the property going to or from duty/work at the most wonderful hours associated with a 12 hour minimum shift, in the said geographic areas.</p><p></p><p>You tell me?</p><p><img src="/images/smilies/censored.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored:" title="Censored :censored:" data-shortname=":censored:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Barrett, post: 252459, member: 883"] Okay, now ponder this. The "police" cannot search your home or car without "due process" or acting on something "in plain sight." Then, to all those "I just will not support the companies that do this or that..." I am a paramedic, work for the largest service in the land(Oklahoma) you know the name... No weapons on the person/employee or in your vehicle if parked on company property, and it is an offense (they will fire you) if you do not park in their lot. Yet, while attatched to the local SWAT team we carry weapons and even deploy from a "company vehicle." So, unless you're gonna' be your own paramedic, you really can't call another company or provider. Plus, on both ends of the turnpike, the geographic and socio-economic placement of my place of employment would tend to increase the chances of an incident that would require the use of force. But, ponder this, in the work place violence. If you're mad enough to walk to the truck and get a weapon and return and use it. If the walk to the truck didn't phase you, like the cute girl from accounting smiling as you walked out, what's to say you would not drive to the house or wherever the weapons were and return. And, why did noone notice Joe Shotgun was: tense, quiet, pissed, angered, flustered, peeved or whatever during the said meeting or on his way to get the weapons. Much less his return trip. Asking for permission to defend yourself cost Luby's a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, when that guy drove into the one in Texas, and proceded to shoot the people and place up. Yeah, a young woman had taken her parents to lunch that day, she had a concealed carry permit and a big ole' wheel gun in her purse, got to the door of the restaurant and seen the No Weapons Allowed **the pic of a pistol in a circle with a line drawn through it**, turned around and went back to her personal vehicle and secured said weapon. After the incident, Luby's hady to pay her for the loss of her parents(both), because the powers that be(judges, lawyers, jury) felt as though the young women could have not only defended herself and parents, but ended the incident. The court also ruled that the nifty sign "implies" that the establishment that posts it assumes the liability of "No weapons allowed...Because We Will Protect You!" There in lies my dilema, the company I work for places me in harms way, without the ability to "call in fire upon my location" because the best I can get sometimes is "the .... department will not give out ETA's, the job/call has been assigned" while I am on duty. I will allow even less of a reaction when I am on the property going to or from duty/work at the most wonderful hours associated with a 12 hour minimum shift, in the said geographic areas. You tell me? :censored: [/QUOTE]
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