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<blockquote data-quote="soonersfan" data-source="post: 1411781" data-attributes="member: 9063"><p>Besides all of the negative side effects already listed, ethanol is costing you more at the grocery store too. We've gotten used to the price increases but when the government started subsidizing ethanol production, food costs spiked across the board and have not returned to their previous levels. Besides the obvious use of corn to feed beef cows, dairy cows, poultry and pork, many wheat, soy farmers, etc. also switched to producing corn thereby reducing supply of those items. As a result, every food commodity has increased in price. </p><p></p><p>Using food for fuel is a bad idea in my opinion. If anything, the use of natural gas makes more sense to me. It is both cheaper and cleaner. It isn't quite as efficient as gasoline but any efficiency losses are offset by the lower cost. The major hurdle is the cost of conversion kits and the accessibility of pumps. If there are to be subsidies, they should go there. It can't be the only solution but it could be part of the solution. </p><p></p><p>Obama apparently is a major investor in electric vehicles or works for people who are. He is obsessed with them despite their many drawbacks. He also fails to addresses the environmental impact of battery production and disposal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soonersfan, post: 1411781, member: 9063"] Besides all of the negative side effects already listed, ethanol is costing you more at the grocery store too. We've gotten used to the price increases but when the government started subsidizing ethanol production, food costs spiked across the board and have not returned to their previous levels. Besides the obvious use of corn to feed beef cows, dairy cows, poultry and pork, many wheat, soy farmers, etc. also switched to producing corn thereby reducing supply of those items. As a result, every food commodity has increased in price. Using food for fuel is a bad idea in my opinion. If anything, the use of natural gas makes more sense to me. It is both cheaper and cleaner. It isn't quite as efficient as gasoline but any efficiency losses are offset by the lower cost. The major hurdle is the cost of conversion kits and the accessibility of pumps. If there are to be subsidies, they should go there. It can't be the only solution but it could be part of the solution. Obama apparently is a major investor in electric vehicles or works for people who are. He is obsessed with them despite their many drawbacks. He also fails to addresses the environmental impact of battery production and disposal. [/QUOTE]
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