Everywheres sold out of ammo!!

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GlockPride

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I took economics in college, and I do know of the law of supply and demand. In normal situations yes, low supply + high demand = price increase. But your argument is missing a few key details. The s/d curve as it affects price is not so simple, there are many other factors that play into it. For one, will the product still be produced? Is this item a luxury or necessity? For example: No one cries foul when a M16A1 pre-1986 rifle is sold for over $25k. There is a finite supply that is available for the average citizen to purchase and that supply dwindles for each one the ATF destroys because it was "illegally" owned. So the high price on those items is understood. For something like ammo, that is just a temporary shortage, one could accept a small markup, but not to the levels some of these places are rising them. Do you see wal-mart charging $50 bucks for a 4 pack of Charmin? The supply of ammo will return as its made and sent to the distributors. The level that several websites and retailers have risen the price of ammo falls well outside the s/d chart, thats when it is called gouging. Especially on an item that is necessary for firearms to function.

You completely missed the point. Just stop. There is NO such animal as “Gouging”. It does NOT exist. It’s a made up term in order to try to employ ‘fairness’ through ‘guilt’ that someone is doing something wrong. If you’re a free capitalist, you simply cannot believe in this term and ideology in a fair, free market.
 

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Price controls are brought on by the government.
These prices are brought on by gougers looking to profit from a crisis.
I bought 5200 rounds of 9mm when walmart closed out at half price or less. I would never sell any of it for more than I paid for it to my fellow firearms owners. Its for shooting, not for sale.
I don't buy anything with the intention of reselling it.
Firearms owners bring this shortage upon themselves by hoarding and gouging.

Better be careful posting numbers like that. One man’s one month stash is someone else’s lifetime supply. Could lead someone to yell “Hoarder, hoarder, hoarder!!” At you. Might even get the guv’mint coming to relieve you of some of it.
I believe the government has labeled “hoarding” as illegal too, but I still don’t know what that is either.
 

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I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone in the shooting community who lived through the ammo shortage after Sandy Hook and is currently b*tching about not being able to find ammo.

I do; but only for those people who couldn't afford to stock up when prices were low and ammo was readily available. A lot of people can just afford to buy enough to go to the range occasionally and so on. Now, they can't even do that. But if you had the disposable income, and didn't prepare, well that's on you.
 

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I do; but only for those people who couldn't afford to stock up when prices were low and ammo was readily available. A lot of people can just afford to buy enough to go to the range occasionally and so on. Now, they can't even do that. But if you had the disposable income, and didn't prepare, well that's on you.
I’ll agree with this to a point, but if a person has the money to smoke, dip, drink beer, go to the casino, and go out to eat but uses the “can’t afford to stock ammo” excuse, I have no sympathy. That tells me what their priorities are, and it isn’t shooting.:anyone:
 

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5200 rounds of 9mm is not a lot if you do some math.
Husband and wife and 2 kids all have a 9MM and go out to the farm to shoot some stuff.

Lets say 10 rounds in each gun.. 40 rounds shot in a couple minutes.
Probably 120 rounds fired from each person in a day.
480 rounds a day.
Not even a long day. In 11 trips to the farm shooting about the same amount of ammo you could be out of 9MM.
Lets say you do not need to go to the farm..you are already there living on the land you shoot on.

Not even a months supply for 1 person.
 

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I’ll agree with this to a point, but if a person has the money to smoke, dip, drink beer, go to the casino, and go out to eat but uses the “can’t afford to stock ammo” excuse, I have no sympathy. That tells me what their priorities are, and it isn’t shooting.:anyone:

Exactly. Now that we have clarified that, I have to go finish counting my ammo, and trying to organize it by caliber, grain, type, date, etc. which is going to take some time. I probably should give some consideration to distribution and storage, so I don't put too much weight on my foundation on one side of the house and have to call Ram Jack Leveling out.
 

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smoke, dip, drink beer, go to the casino,
My friends were doing all the above and in high school doing all but the casino.
I hear some of them complain about lack of money and bills due.

I was saving my money way back then and now for things I feel are more important.
Cars and Fishing stuff.
Of course hunting stuff.
Get it when it's on sale. 50 gr V-Max 100 count box of projectiles $7.
250gr XTP 100 count $10 Yea I stocked up.
 

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Price controls are brought on by the government.
These prices are brought on by gougers looking to profit from a crisis.

Honest question here: Isn't the term gouging only applicable when the person (or business) selling the product has control of the supply or has a captive market?
 

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