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<blockquote data-quote="cody6766" data-source="post: 2700491" data-attributes="member: 26511"><p>I didn't read the thread, so we'll see where this falls...</p><p></p><p>I'm a firm believer in evolution and a former Christian. I basically reasoned my way in to atheism when I got to the point where I learned enough about history, science and philosophy that I just couldn't honestly say I believe in any religion. Too many things conflicted or started to sound made up. That's not to say I'm <em>anti</em>theist, but atheist. If someone could prove god to me, I'd believe. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, arguing evolution from a real, scientific and CONVINCING standpoint requires a heavy background in biology and a good bit of chemistry. For the concepts to seem tangible, there are years (or at least semesters) of study that need to be covered for it to not sound like "trust me, it's true." "Trust me, it's true" is a big problem I have with religion, so it's not fair to use it with evolution. Anyway, there are a few books worth reading that lay out the case for evolution through the fossil record and show some logical pathways for abiotic genesis, evolution of DNA and evolution of cellular duplication processes required for life to evolve. One also breaks down statistics of mutation and places them aside the geological timeline to show that the math makes sense. </p><p></p><p>The books are:</p><p>Life Ascending: The Ten Great Inventions of Evolution</p><p>Written in Stone: Evolution, the Fossil Record, and Our Place in Nature</p><p>The Making of the Fittest: DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evoluton</p><p></p><p>These authors aren't taking an unbiased approach to this. They are pro evolution and make an argument for it.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I went over this and realized that it kind of sounds like "You just can't get it you dumb Christians." It's not that at all. I have just come to realize, through focusing on evolution through my Biology major, that the convincing "holy hell, this makes sense" moments are in the details and they're not in Intro to Biology. My point was, I can't argue for evolution in an convincing manner without explaining a BIG back story that's really damn boring to people that aren't biology geeks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cody6766, post: 2700491, member: 26511"] I didn't read the thread, so we'll see where this falls... I'm a firm believer in evolution and a former Christian. I basically reasoned my way in to atheism when I got to the point where I learned enough about history, science and philosophy that I just couldn't honestly say I believe in any religion. Too many things conflicted or started to sound made up. That's not to say I'm [i]anti[/i]theist, but atheist. If someone could prove god to me, I'd believe. Anyway, arguing evolution from a real, scientific and CONVINCING standpoint requires a heavy background in biology and a good bit of chemistry. For the concepts to seem tangible, there are years (or at least semesters) of study that need to be covered for it to not sound like "trust me, it's true." "Trust me, it's true" is a big problem I have with religion, so it's not fair to use it with evolution. Anyway, there are a few books worth reading that lay out the case for evolution through the fossil record and show some logical pathways for abiotic genesis, evolution of DNA and evolution of cellular duplication processes required for life to evolve. One also breaks down statistics of mutation and places them aside the geological timeline to show that the math makes sense. The books are: Life Ascending: The Ten Great Inventions of Evolution Written in Stone: Evolution, the Fossil Record, and Our Place in Nature The Making of the Fittest: DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evoluton These authors aren't taking an unbiased approach to this. They are pro evolution and make an argument for it. EDIT: I went over this and realized that it kind of sounds like "You just can't get it you dumb Christians." It's not that at all. I have just come to realize, through focusing on evolution through my Biology major, that the convincing "holy hell, this makes sense" moments are in the details and they're not in Intro to Biology. My point was, I can't argue for evolution in an convincing manner without explaining a BIG back story that's really damn boring to people that aren't biology geeks. [/QUOTE]
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