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<blockquote data-quote="cody6766" data-source="post: 2701011" data-attributes="member: 26511"><p>I agree...to a point. Where I disagree with you is at this point:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that evoking the supernatural is a cop out. It's just like ancient civilizations saying that lightning is a god throwing thunderbolts. Jumping to the supernatural for an explanation for things we don't understand is no different than early civilizations thinking up a god of the sun or god or the dead to explain what they couldn't rationalize. For centuries, people have been saying "well, it must be a god" when they hit a scientific wall. For centuries, scientists have been resolving those problems when technology and study reveals natural answers to questions previously only able to be explained by evoking the supernatural. </p><p></p><p>You can say "it's guided" and I can't prove you wrong. I'm perfectly okay with that and don't have any issue with you believing what you think is true. For me, lack of an answer doesn't mean it must be supernatural. It just means we haven't answered the question, just like the early humans didn't know why lightning happened. If someone came up with real, scientific, compelling evidence that a god guided the creation of life, I'd probably buy into it. I just need more than "trust me" from a collection of books written by a few guys when there were plenty of other guys saying "trust me" about other books/writings/gods/traditions/etc. I used to believe in guided evolution, or evolution sparked and allowed to run free, but the history and philosophy I mentioned made me question that to the point that I just can't say I believe and be honest with myself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cody6766, post: 2701011, member: 26511"] I agree...to a point. Where I disagree with you is at this point: I think that evoking the supernatural is a cop out. It's just like ancient civilizations saying that lightning is a god throwing thunderbolts. Jumping to the supernatural for an explanation for things we don't understand is no different than early civilizations thinking up a god of the sun or god or the dead to explain what they couldn't rationalize. For centuries, people have been saying "well, it must be a god" when they hit a scientific wall. For centuries, scientists have been resolving those problems when technology and study reveals natural answers to questions previously only able to be explained by evoking the supernatural. You can say "it's guided" and I can't prove you wrong. I'm perfectly okay with that and don't have any issue with you believing what you think is true. For me, lack of an answer doesn't mean it must be supernatural. It just means we haven't answered the question, just like the early humans didn't know why lightning happened. If someone came up with real, scientific, compelling evidence that a god guided the creation of life, I'd probably buy into it. I just need more than "trust me" from a collection of books written by a few guys when there were plenty of other guys saying "trust me" about other books/writings/gods/traditions/etc. I used to believe in guided evolution, or evolution sparked and allowed to run free, but the history and philosophy I mentioned made me question that to the point that I just can't say I believe and be honest with myself. [/QUOTE]
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