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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 2631428" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>Probably, but there won't be any decision for a long time...this is just an RFI to collect data. They might not actually get to the RFP or trials for a very long time, and even if they do it might end up like the service rifle trials where they decided that the SCAR Light didn't offer any cost effective improvements over the M4 system. </p><p></p><p>Yeah, they have left the caliber door open but the specs are not written in a way that <em>eliminates</em> 9mm at all. There is simply going to be a comparison of the lethality (using ballistic gel) of any other round submitted with the existing M882 round (note the comparison is to a particular loading, which means someone can present a <em>better</em> 9mm FMJ loading). That lethality, with special emphasis on increased pressures, is balanced with the requirement for reliability and longevity. In other words, just because someone provides a round that is more lethal, if it beats the crap out of the gun and reduces service life, it won't fly. </p><p></p><p>Here's a link to the actual RFI: <a href="https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=9f1ce0b713fbca86907916572eee11d6&_cview=0" target="_blank">https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=9f1ce0b713fbca86907916572eee11d6&_cview=0</a></p><p></p><p>I don't see how anyone can read that and make the definitive claim that "The military is moving away from 9mm".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 2631428, member: 42"] Probably, but there won't be any decision for a long time...this is just an RFI to collect data. They might not actually get to the RFP or trials for a very long time, and even if they do it might end up like the service rifle trials where they decided that the SCAR Light didn't offer any cost effective improvements over the M4 system. Yeah, they have left the caliber door open but the specs are not written in a way that [I]eliminates[/I] 9mm at all. There is simply going to be a comparison of the lethality (using ballistic gel) of any other round submitted with the existing M882 round (note the comparison is to a particular loading, which means someone can present a [I]better[/I] 9mm FMJ loading). That lethality, with special emphasis on increased pressures, is balanced with the requirement for reliability and longevity. In other words, just because someone provides a round that is more lethal, if it beats the crap out of the gun and reduces service life, it won't fly. Here's a link to the actual RFI: [url]https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=9f1ce0b713fbca86907916572eee11d6&_cview=0[/url] I don't see how anyone can read that and make the definitive claim that "The military is moving away from 9mm". [/QUOTE]
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