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<blockquote data-quote="zghorner" data-source="post: 3506004" data-attributes="member: 35089"><p>Legality wise I have to agree...if the suits can prove you are purchasing firearms for the sole reason of resale/profit you can get your cookie dough stuffed in a big way. And this is the major issue with using firearms as an investment vehicle...To do it on a large enough scale to actually make real money you MUST have an FFL...And at that point it becomes a job, not an investment. The fees/taxes/business expenses eats up enough of the profits to make other investments more attractive.</p><p></p><p>As far as future bans being more or less permanent and requiring a tax stamp...</p><p>(1) If the newly classified NFA items are treated like suppressors where they are still able to be manufactured and sold to the public with a tax stamp and registration...then I can see where you are coming from.</p><p>(2) if they are treated like machine guns where they are no longer able to be sold to the public and what is in circulation at current is all that will be allowed...the value of all of those items (which are registered legally) will increase dramatically overnight. I dont see how eliminating all future supply would do anything but cause the price to go up in a big way.</p><p></p><p>BUT, if one were to risk it...Making money on firearms is easier than pretty much any other investment if you factor in (1) likelihood of appreciation, and (2) ROIC. with (1) being the big one honestly guns just do not really drop in value very often...we are obviously in a newb fueled price bubble at the moment but taking a step back...the price of this stuff has been steadily increasing since forever making them a VERY safe place to store value. If people are looking for some long term ways to fight inflation, then purchasing X number of firearms per year of quality companies is not a bad idea at all and very little risk of legal issues if playing the long game. Its the flippers who are moving hundreds of guns a year that are at risk of getting screwed by the long d**k of the law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zghorner, post: 3506004, member: 35089"] Legality wise I have to agree...if the suits can prove you are purchasing firearms for the sole reason of resale/profit you can get your cookie dough stuffed in a big way. And this is the major issue with using firearms as an investment vehicle...To do it on a large enough scale to actually make real money you MUST have an FFL...And at that point it becomes a job, not an investment. The fees/taxes/business expenses eats up enough of the profits to make other investments more attractive. As far as future bans being more or less permanent and requiring a tax stamp... (1) If the newly classified NFA items are treated like suppressors where they are still able to be manufactured and sold to the public with a tax stamp and registration...then I can see where you are coming from. (2) if they are treated like machine guns where they are no longer able to be sold to the public and what is in circulation at current is all that will be allowed...the value of all of those items (which are registered legally) will increase dramatically overnight. I dont see how eliminating all future supply would do anything but cause the price to go up in a big way. BUT, if one were to risk it...Making money on firearms is easier than pretty much any other investment if you factor in (1) likelihood of appreciation, and (2) ROIC. with (1) being the big one honestly guns just do not really drop in value very often...we are obviously in a newb fueled price bubble at the moment but taking a step back...the price of this stuff has been steadily increasing since forever making them a VERY safe place to store value. If people are looking for some long term ways to fight inflation, then purchasing X number of firearms per year of quality companies is not a bad idea at all and very little risk of legal issues if playing the long game. Its the flippers who are moving hundreds of guns a year that are at risk of getting screwed by the long d**k of the law. [/QUOTE]
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