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<blockquote data-quote="OKC_Jim" data-source="post: 2646390" data-attributes="member: 13601"><p>Tell us a bit more.</p><p></p><p>What type of competitions?</p><p></p><p>Any particular time periods of history you are interested in?</p><p></p><p>Any particular nations?</p><p></p><p>Bolt action, semi-auto, or does it matter?</p><p></p><p>For your first, I'd get the one that calls to you. Wait, that advice applies to all of them, not just your first.</p><p></p><p>If you ever think you'd like a garand from the CMP the time to act is now. They are running low. It would make a great story to make the trek to Anniston to select your very own garand. </p><p></p><p>I'm just going to ramble a bit...</p><p></p><p>A lot of people start out with a Russina Mosin Nagant. They are readily available and affordable (but prices are always climbing). As for competition, that depends on your rifle and the type of competition. Some guys seem to have a lot of luck with them. The ones I have shot, on the other hand, don't shoot all that well.</p><p></p><p>I've shot in a few CMP Games in GSM matches. If you're not familiar with that type of match it is typically shot at 200 yards from multiple positions. GSM stands for Garand, Springfield, and Military Bold Action. You'll also see it as GSMM. The second M is for Modern Military. If these are the competitions you are talking about, the most commonly seen rifles on the line seem to be Garands, 03A3s, M1903s, K31s, M1917s, and Swedish Mausers. Modern Military adds clones of the M14 and M16A2 (those are the most common, there are others) in there but we'll ignore those for now since I presume you are wanting a true milsurp right now and not a clone of one?</p><p></p><p>Clones can be fun too, especially if you put it together.</p><p></p><p>Personally, in the matches, I shoot a Garand, 1903, and K31. I love them all. I do the best with the garand. The rear sight on the garand is one of the most user friendly and adjustable sights on a milsurp rifle. Between the other two, the 1903 and K31, on average I do better with the 1903 but my personal bests are better with the K31. The rear sight on the 1903 is a bit odd and some people prefer the 03A3 over the 1903 due to the more user friendly sights on the 03A3. I, and perhaps I am weird, like the sights on the 1903. It almost feels like an arcane ritual (that is a bit extreme but I can't think of a better way of saying it that conveys the same feeling) getting them dialed in, but when they are dialed in it is something special. The K31, I love the straight pull bolt. In rapids, if I am dialed in, I can get 10 rounds off with the K31 (bolt action) as fast as I can with the M1 Garand (semi-auto).</p><p></p><p>Still rambling....</p><p></p><p>My first milsurp was a M1 Garand. At the time my primary interest was American and WW2 so the garand kind of fit.</p><p></p><p>I've shot a Swedish mauser. It was very nice and very accurate. The recoil was pretty nice too. So far, I haven't found a Swede that talks to me, but I'm willing to listen.</p><p></p><p>That should be enough rambling for now....</p><p></p><p>Wait, an SKS can be a lot of fun and the ammo is affordable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OKC_Jim, post: 2646390, member: 13601"] Tell us a bit more. What type of competitions? Any particular time periods of history you are interested in? Any particular nations? Bolt action, semi-auto, or does it matter? For your first, I'd get the one that calls to you. Wait, that advice applies to all of them, not just your first. If you ever think you'd like a garand from the CMP the time to act is now. They are running low. It would make a great story to make the trek to Anniston to select your very own garand. I'm just going to ramble a bit... A lot of people start out with a Russina Mosin Nagant. They are readily available and affordable (but prices are always climbing). As for competition, that depends on your rifle and the type of competition. Some guys seem to have a lot of luck with them. The ones I have shot, on the other hand, don't shoot all that well. I've shot in a few CMP Games in GSM matches. If you're not familiar with that type of match it is typically shot at 200 yards from multiple positions. GSM stands for Garand, Springfield, and Military Bold Action. You'll also see it as GSMM. The second M is for Modern Military. If these are the competitions you are talking about, the most commonly seen rifles on the line seem to be Garands, 03A3s, M1903s, K31s, M1917s, and Swedish Mausers. Modern Military adds clones of the M14 and M16A2 (those are the most common, there are others) in there but we'll ignore those for now since I presume you are wanting a true milsurp right now and not a clone of one? Clones can be fun too, especially if you put it together. Personally, in the matches, I shoot a Garand, 1903, and K31. I love them all. I do the best with the garand. The rear sight on the garand is one of the most user friendly and adjustable sights on a milsurp rifle. Between the other two, the 1903 and K31, on average I do better with the 1903 but my personal bests are better with the K31. The rear sight on the 1903 is a bit odd and some people prefer the 03A3 over the 1903 due to the more user friendly sights on the 03A3. I, and perhaps I am weird, like the sights on the 1903. It almost feels like an arcane ritual (that is a bit extreme but I can't think of a better way of saying it that conveys the same feeling) getting them dialed in, but when they are dialed in it is something special. The K31, I love the straight pull bolt. In rapids, if I am dialed in, I can get 10 rounds off with the K31 (bolt action) as fast as I can with the M1 Garand (semi-auto). Still rambling.... My first milsurp was a M1 Garand. At the time my primary interest was American and WW2 so the garand kind of fit. I've shot a Swedish mauser. It was very nice and very accurate. The recoil was pretty nice too. So far, I haven't found a Swede that talks to me, but I'm willing to listen. That should be enough rambling for now.... Wait, an SKS can be a lot of fun and the ammo is affordable. [/QUOTE]
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