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<blockquote data-quote="BigRed82" data-source="post: 850508" data-attributes="member: 3048"><p>Caliber issue: .45 is nice to have. Expensive to shoot. The guys saying to go with cheaper ammo have a good point. I only have a .45 now, but I started out on 9mm. No matter what, go get yourself a .22 pistol. Ruger Mk model or a Browning Buckmark would be my suggestion. This is the cheapest and best way to get in some good practice. $30 gets you 1,000 rounds of plinking fun. </p><p></p><p>First, consider how much you plan to shoot. </p><p>Let's say you shoot 200 rounds every month. Let's even go more conservative and say 100. At the very cheapest price then - we're talking $33/mo for 12 months = about $400 in ammo. That's 100 rounds/mo. 25/week. 1,200 rounds a year. That's not much. Trust me. Back when 9mm was cheaper, I was willing to go through 1,000 rounds of 9mm in a month. Some guys will go through that in a week or two. </p><p></p><p>Let's look at 9mm. At the same rate of 100rnds/mo @ the cheapest price would be $18/mo for 12 months = about $215. </p><p>$400 will buy you around 2,200 rounds of 9mm instead of 1,200 of .45. </p><p>That is a 1,000 round difference. Just to put it into practical numbers. That provides a lot of practice. Practice makes better. </p><p></p><p>9mm handgun options:</p><p>Glock, S&W M&P, Springfield XD, Walther P99 - these are the ones I suggest the most. All striker fired. No external safeties to fumble up when in a self defense setting. </p><p></p><p>For those who want a DA/SA, look at SIG (P226/229/239), H&K (P2000, USP), CZ (P-01, PCR, 75, etc), Armalite (AR-24) and Berettas. Some will try to spin that these first two brands have "better" quality than others. All of these arguments are Ford vs Chevy, Toyota vs Honda. All of the manufacturers I have listed have excellent quality and are reliable. Every manufacturer can turn out a lemon, so don't worry about which is "best". Best is in the eye of the beholder. Handle all of them and see which feels best. Rent and shoot the top 3-5 that you like. Buy the one you prefer. </p><p></p><p>One more I'll mention is the Browning High Power. I haven't owned one of these, but it is on my list as the next centerfire pistol I'll be buying. I've bought and sold a tone of 9mms, and the BHP has recently become a bit of an obsession. </p><p></p><p>The 1911 might not be the best platform to start out with. While it is my personal favorite, the manual of arms is more complicated due to the external safety. Miss the safety, and you're in deep trouble. However, there is IMHO no sweeter trigger and grip than a 1911. </p><p>9mm 1911s: Take a look at the offerings from Springfield in the EMP. Under $1000, compact, sweet trigger, great handgun. I really like the EMP. I personally like it over the other 9mm 1911 offerings from the rest of the pack. </p><p></p><p>.45 1911s:</p><p>The saying, "You get what you pay for" generally is a truthful description of the 1911 industry. A $1000 1911 is usually head and shoulders preferable to a $500. Likewise a $1500 over the $1000. Likewise a $2000 over the $1500. Past $2500, you are paying for looks and tiny tiny improvements in things that the average Joe would probably never appreciate. </p><p>For under $1000, probably looking at a </p><p>Springfield Loaded or MC Operator, </p><p>a Dan Wesson CBOB, </p><p>a STI, </p><p>or a Colt Combat Elite XSE, etc.</p><p>These would be my recommendations. </p><p></p><p>Good Hunting and Enjoy! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigRed82, post: 850508, member: 3048"] Caliber issue: .45 is nice to have. Expensive to shoot. The guys saying to go with cheaper ammo have a good point. I only have a .45 now, but I started out on 9mm. No matter what, go get yourself a .22 pistol. Ruger Mk model or a Browning Buckmark would be my suggestion. This is the cheapest and best way to get in some good practice. $30 gets you 1,000 rounds of plinking fun. First, consider how much you plan to shoot. Let's say you shoot 200 rounds every month. Let's even go more conservative and say 100. At the very cheapest price then - we're talking $33/mo for 12 months = about $400 in ammo. That's 100 rounds/mo. 25/week. 1,200 rounds a year. That's not much. Trust me. Back when 9mm was cheaper, I was willing to go through 1,000 rounds of 9mm in a month. Some guys will go through that in a week or two. Let's look at 9mm. At the same rate of 100rnds/mo @ the cheapest price would be $18/mo for 12 months = about $215. $400 will buy you around 2,200 rounds of 9mm instead of 1,200 of .45. That is a 1,000 round difference. Just to put it into practical numbers. That provides a lot of practice. Practice makes better. 9mm handgun options: Glock, S&W M&P, Springfield XD, Walther P99 - these are the ones I suggest the most. All striker fired. No external safeties to fumble up when in a self defense setting. For those who want a DA/SA, look at SIG (P226/229/239), H&K (P2000, USP), CZ (P-01, PCR, 75, etc), Armalite (AR-24) and Berettas. Some will try to spin that these first two brands have "better" quality than others. All of these arguments are Ford vs Chevy, Toyota vs Honda. All of the manufacturers I have listed have excellent quality and are reliable. Every manufacturer can turn out a lemon, so don't worry about which is "best". Best is in the eye of the beholder. Handle all of them and see which feels best. Rent and shoot the top 3-5 that you like. Buy the one you prefer. One more I'll mention is the Browning High Power. I haven't owned one of these, but it is on my list as the next centerfire pistol I'll be buying. I've bought and sold a tone of 9mms, and the BHP has recently become a bit of an obsession. The 1911 might not be the best platform to start out with. While it is my personal favorite, the manual of arms is more complicated due to the external safety. Miss the safety, and you're in deep trouble. However, there is IMHO no sweeter trigger and grip than a 1911. 9mm 1911s: Take a look at the offerings from Springfield in the EMP. Under $1000, compact, sweet trigger, great handgun. I really like the EMP. I personally like it over the other 9mm 1911 offerings from the rest of the pack. .45 1911s: The saying, "You get what you pay for" generally is a truthful description of the 1911 industry. A $1000 1911 is usually head and shoulders preferable to a $500. Likewise a $1500 over the $1000. Likewise a $2000 over the $1500. Past $2500, you are paying for looks and tiny tiny improvements in things that the average Joe would probably never appreciate. For under $1000, probably looking at a Springfield Loaded or MC Operator, a Dan Wesson CBOB, a STI, or a Colt Combat Elite XSE, etc. These would be my recommendations. Good Hunting and Enjoy! :) [/QUOTE]
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