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Foot pounds is not the end all... Calculations, Momentum and Taylor KO.
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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 2777331" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>I researched and did some math and some more math and found a start load and worked up.</p><p>Not every load I use is in the book.</p><p>In fact I do not see any H4350 for 170gr cast gas checked in a 30-30 but that was my most accurate powder under a cast bullet in the 30-30.</p><p></p><p>I will throw the kitchen sink at it to find an accurate load.</p><p></p><p>The data for the 30-06 that is published today does not take advantage of a modern well built 30-06.</p><p>There are a lot of published loads that are a huge safety factor load..it is a CYA thing you know.</p><p></p><p>I surpassed 3200fps in my 30-06 with a 155gr sierra palma bullet and H4350 the gun has a 22" barrel. but i got sticky bolt lift up there .</p><p></p><p>I backed the load down a bit to 3176fps ..accuracy was great and no more sticky bolt lift.. tested in the hot sun in 90+ degree heat.</p><p>Buddy made a 230gr cast load with longshot powder i think it was Longshot, it was in 45acp reloaded into steel cases.</p><p>It was 1270fps.. use a strong gun!,, i shot a couple in my 45 and no issues.. I think with some tweaking 1300fps would be possible .</p><p>But that is usually not where accuracy is at.</p><p></p><p>Funny thing one time shooting 25 paces at paper.. I had some fast loads(45acp) that made my bullets tumble and tear paper and leave sideways bullet prints on paper.</p><p>The same powder and bullet with less powder in them kept the bullets straight,, BUT the funny part here was the tumbling bullets grouped over 2X tighter.</p><p></p><p>So I shot and recovered some of the tumbling bullets. looked like you sanded them with 36 grit paper.. no rifling marks or grooves.. just sand marks from skidding instead of spinning.</p><p>I even cast some harder ones and those did the same.. they skidded.</p><p></p><p>What I came away with is perfect non traceable tumbling projectile that was sort of accurate.</p><p>Scary ain't it.</p><p></p><p>yea as you know i don't always go by the book</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 2777331, member: 15054"] I researched and did some math and some more math and found a start load and worked up. Not every load I use is in the book. In fact I do not see any H4350 for 170gr cast gas checked in a 30-30 but that was my most accurate powder under a cast bullet in the 30-30. I will throw the kitchen sink at it to find an accurate load. The data for the 30-06 that is published today does not take advantage of a modern well built 30-06. There are a lot of published loads that are a huge safety factor load..it is a CYA thing you know. I surpassed 3200fps in my 30-06 with a 155gr sierra palma bullet and H4350 the gun has a 22" barrel. but i got sticky bolt lift up there . I backed the load down a bit to 3176fps ..accuracy was great and no more sticky bolt lift.. tested in the hot sun in 90+ degree heat. Buddy made a 230gr cast load with longshot powder i think it was Longshot, it was in 45acp reloaded into steel cases. It was 1270fps.. use a strong gun!,, i shot a couple in my 45 and no issues.. I think with some tweaking 1300fps would be possible . But that is usually not where accuracy is at. Funny thing one time shooting 25 paces at paper.. I had some fast loads(45acp) that made my bullets tumble and tear paper and leave sideways bullet prints on paper. The same powder and bullet with less powder in them kept the bullets straight,, BUT the funny part here was the tumbling bullets grouped over 2X tighter. So I shot and recovered some of the tumbling bullets. looked like you sanded them with 36 grit paper.. no rifling marks or grooves.. just sand marks from skidding instead of spinning. I even cast some harder ones and those did the same.. they skidded. What I came away with is perfect non traceable tumbling projectile that was sort of accurate. Scary ain't it. yea as you know i don't always go by the book [/QUOTE]
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