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<blockquote data-quote="Werewolf" data-source="post: 1698333" data-attributes="member: 239"><p>Maybe? Maybe not?</p><p></p><p>Your typical homo sapiens being a social animal is imminently pliable since social groups by their very nature have few chiefs and lots and lots of followers. For social groups to succeed and be an ongoing proposition it is necessary for the followers to follow lest there be chaos.</p><p></p><p>It is a fact that in this country the tax and entitlements systems are forms of directed social engineering; social engineering that over the years has redefined our culture from one where individual accomplishment based on competency and success are admired to a culture of gimmee gimmee. Considering basic human nature that is a perfectly natural process when those that lead lead only at the whims of those that follow.</p><p></p><p>The moral fiber of this country has been destroyed by basic human nature - a nature pandered to by those in power who want to keep it (which is just what those with power do).</p><p></p><p>I submit that it is not the fault of the sheep (who are after all - just doing what sheep do) but the fault of those that lead the sheep that has brought the USA to the point where it is today.</p><p></p><p>So - I would disagree JB that we've done it to ourselves. Our basic natures - bred into homo sapiens over millions of years is mostly responsible because those who can manipulate and direct it (leader types) do - while those that can't, follow (as they must by their very natures) and even enjoy the fruits of the manipulation (which in our system is what keeps the leaders, leaders).</p><p></p><p>It's a snow ball effect and the end of the USA as we know it is inevitable.</p><p></p><p>Hell, man - I'm even starting to believe you're right about the obmanation. He may very well win a 2nd term.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Werewolf, post: 1698333, member: 239"] Maybe? Maybe not? Your typical homo sapiens being a social animal is imminently pliable since social groups by their very nature have few chiefs and lots and lots of followers. For social groups to succeed and be an ongoing proposition it is necessary for the followers to follow lest there be chaos. It is a fact that in this country the tax and entitlements systems are forms of directed social engineering; social engineering that over the years has redefined our culture from one where individual accomplishment based on competency and success are admired to a culture of gimmee gimmee. Considering basic human nature that is a perfectly natural process when those that lead lead only at the whims of those that follow. The moral fiber of this country has been destroyed by basic human nature - a nature pandered to by those in power who want to keep it (which is just what those with power do). I submit that it is not the fault of the sheep (who are after all - just doing what sheep do) but the fault of those that lead the sheep that has brought the USA to the point where it is today. So - I would disagree JB that we've done it to ourselves. Our basic natures - bred into homo sapiens over millions of years is mostly responsible because those who can manipulate and direct it (leader types) do - while those that can't, follow (as they must by their very natures) and even enjoy the fruits of the manipulation (which in our system is what keeps the leaders, leaders). It's a snow ball effect and the end of the USA as we know it is inevitable. Hell, man - I'm even starting to believe you're right about the obmanation. He may very well win a 2nd term. [/QUOTE]
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