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<blockquote data-quote="firefighterguy" data-source="post: 2790587" data-attributes="member: 34983"><p>We know based off of scripture that there are varying degrees of sin because Jesus himself said it. We don't however know what those sins are. Unrepentant sin is all the same. Whether I cheat on my wife or murder 100 people, if I don't repent I'm not going to heaven. Jesus grace covers all sins tho. If I repent for any sin we know that we are forgiven because of the work Christ did for us on the cross. The whole mortal/venial sin is not biblical. </p><p></p><p>The bible is Gods written word. Jesus, nor the disciples mentioned any sort of purgatory. When referencing the after life there was only two option, heaven or hell. If purgatory existed they would've mentioned it. Nor is it mentioned anywhere else in the bible. The idea comes from the Apocrapha, which neither Jesus or his disciples ever referenced. </p><p></p><p>I can't compare my ability to interpret scripture versus a person I have never met. There are some very Godly men in the Catholic Church. When you start believing everything a man tells you, you are in deep trouble. That's what happens with the Catholic Church. The pope says it and people follow and believe it. We all have a brain and the ability to read. Very few Catholics have read the bible in its entirety. The Catholic Church literally teaches that you can read the bible but your individual mind cannot argue the practices of the Church are wrong. It's quite obvious why they do that, because the bible does contradict many of their teachings. Most Catholics will never realize the trap the "church" creates. </p><p></p><p>I don't think the Catholic Church teaches a lot of false doctrines from the top. I've been impressed by the humbleness of Pope Francis. He's moving it in the right direction. But somewhere along the way from the Vatican to the local parishes, things get very messed up. It's not a culture that invites the homeless and unbelievers. I'm speaking from 20 years of experience and attending 20+ parishes here in Oklahoma. Both sides of my family are heavily Catholic and have both shunned me essentially for not being Catholic anymore. I've shared my experiences with many other former Catholics and their stories all closely resemble mine. They were always looked down upon by members of the church once they left. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="firefighterguy, post: 2790587, member: 34983"] We know based off of scripture that there are varying degrees of sin because Jesus himself said it. We don't however know what those sins are. Unrepentant sin is all the same. Whether I cheat on my wife or murder 100 people, if I don't repent I'm not going to heaven. Jesus grace covers all sins tho. If I repent for any sin we know that we are forgiven because of the work Christ did for us on the cross. The whole mortal/venial sin is not biblical. The bible is Gods written word. Jesus, nor the disciples mentioned any sort of purgatory. When referencing the after life there was only two option, heaven or hell. If purgatory existed they would've mentioned it. Nor is it mentioned anywhere else in the bible. The idea comes from the Apocrapha, which neither Jesus or his disciples ever referenced. I can't compare my ability to interpret scripture versus a person I have never met. There are some very Godly men in the Catholic Church. When you start believing everything a man tells you, you are in deep trouble. That's what happens with the Catholic Church. The pope says it and people follow and believe it. We all have a brain and the ability to read. Very few Catholics have read the bible in its entirety. The Catholic Church literally teaches that you can read the bible but your individual mind cannot argue the practices of the Church are wrong. It's quite obvious why they do that, because the bible does contradict many of their teachings. Most Catholics will never realize the trap the "church" creates. I don't think the Catholic Church teaches a lot of false doctrines from the top. I've been impressed by the humbleness of Pope Francis. He's moving it in the right direction. But somewhere along the way from the Vatican to the local parishes, things get very messed up. It's not a culture that invites the homeless and unbelievers. I'm speaking from 20 years of experience and attending 20+ parishes here in Oklahoma. Both sides of my family are heavily Catholic and have both shunned me essentially for not being Catholic anymore. I've shared my experiences with many other former Catholics and their stories all closely resemble mine. They were always looked down upon by members of the church once they left. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
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