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<blockquote data-quote="BigRed82" data-source="post: 732683" data-attributes="member: 3048"><p>Sure, the Bush administration staved off anti-gun threats, but by driving this party into the ground, it was a short term accomplishment only. I am more concerned about where this nation will be 50 years from now, and let me tell you, the Bush Administration has cut the legs out from under the GOP. </p><p></p><p>If you want to say that Bush is responsible for the lack of attacks in the last 7 years, then you would also have to say he is responsible for the initial attacks during the first year of his presidency. They weren't unaware of the threat that Osama posed. This issue has been thoroughly documented. </p><p></p><p>You can defend Bush all you want. I am simply saying that it is because of his presidency and his administration and the political gaffs which occured therein that will cost the GOP a decade of political influence, if not more. </p><p></p><p>Was he full retard? No. Did he make some dumbass moves? Hell yes. </p><p>Using the word "Crusade" when talking about reprisals for 9/11 was just one of them. The Black and White world that he lives in of Good and Evil without the necessary shades of grey.</p><p></p><p>The problem ultimately isn't just with Bush. Bush was merely a symptom of a greater disease within the GOP that has been growing like a cancer within the party. Neo-Conservatism. "Compassionate Conservatism". We got the Big Government and Big Spending of the liberal left with the Social Agenda of the Christian Conservative Right. Reagan was successful because he was able to pull in moderate Democrats with his economic principles. Reagan was the great communicator. No one in their right mind could say the same for the Bushes. Jeb very likely would have been a much better President Bush, but now we'll never know because there is no way that the American people will ever vote another Bush into the Whitehouse. </p><p></p><p>You see his accomplishments. Well and good. I see them too, but I also see a long list of political gaffs and screwups and blunders that will haunt this party for years to come. And currently, the gaffs and embarrassments just seem to keep on rolling in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigRed82, post: 732683, member: 3048"] Sure, the Bush administration staved off anti-gun threats, but by driving this party into the ground, it was a short term accomplishment only. I am more concerned about where this nation will be 50 years from now, and let me tell you, the Bush Administration has cut the legs out from under the GOP. If you want to say that Bush is responsible for the lack of attacks in the last 7 years, then you would also have to say he is responsible for the initial attacks during the first year of his presidency. They weren't unaware of the threat that Osama posed. This issue has been thoroughly documented. You can defend Bush all you want. I am simply saying that it is because of his presidency and his administration and the political gaffs which occured therein that will cost the GOP a decade of political influence, if not more. Was he full retard? No. Did he make some dumbass moves? Hell yes. Using the word "Crusade" when talking about reprisals for 9/11 was just one of them. The Black and White world that he lives in of Good and Evil without the necessary shades of grey. The problem ultimately isn't just with Bush. Bush was merely a symptom of a greater disease within the GOP that has been growing like a cancer within the party. Neo-Conservatism. "Compassionate Conservatism". We got the Big Government and Big Spending of the liberal left with the Social Agenda of the Christian Conservative Right. Reagan was successful because he was able to pull in moderate Democrats with his economic principles. Reagan was the great communicator. No one in their right mind could say the same for the Bushes. Jeb very likely would have been a much better President Bush, but now we'll never know because there is no way that the American people will ever vote another Bush into the Whitehouse. You see his accomplishments. Well and good. I see them too, but I also see a long list of political gaffs and screwups and blunders that will haunt this party for years to come. And currently, the gaffs and embarrassments just seem to keep on rolling in. [/QUOTE]
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