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H.R. 1093--The "BATFE Reform Act" Introduced
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<blockquote data-quote="vdub" data-source="post: 1562875" data-attributes="member: 6845"><p>While there have been states that passed laws like you talked about, I would like you to point to a case were someone actually did just that. I bet you cannot find one gun manufacturer or person who has tested the state law. The ATF came out and said that they will be ignoring the laws and any gun dealer or manufacturer would be proceeding under those laws at their own risk. I do not think anyone has taken them to task since everyone knows how dirty the ATF can really be and don't want a Waco raid at their house.</p><p></p><p>The laws were generally looked at as postering by the state to tell the feds to stop overstepping their powers listed out by the Constitution. So to say this is federally legal is somewhat incorrect. It is legal in the state but the federal level doesn't see that way. More than likely these laws will end up in front of the Supreme Court and then it will interpret the Constitution and whatever else they want in the way that supports the majority opinion on the court.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think your general view on this matter is what has brought the country to the point it is at now. You seem to try and find a way to rationalize the reduction of your rights by using different scenarios. Rationalize it anyway you want, it doesn't change the fact the federal government is overstepping their authority and taking away or restricting our rights. It is funny the comparisons you are making to try and pass off your rationalization of gun right restrictions.</p><p></p><p>If everyone would be responsible for themselves, their children, their family and their property, there wouldn't need to be half the laws we have, half the social welfare programs, and half the prisons. However, everyone wants to blame someone else, lives off someone else and steal things from others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vdub, post: 1562875, member: 6845"] While there have been states that passed laws like you talked about, I would like you to point to a case were someone actually did just that. I bet you cannot find one gun manufacturer or person who has tested the state law. The ATF came out and said that they will be ignoring the laws and any gun dealer or manufacturer would be proceeding under those laws at their own risk. I do not think anyone has taken them to task since everyone knows how dirty the ATF can really be and don't want a Waco raid at their house. The laws were generally looked at as postering by the state to tell the feds to stop overstepping their powers listed out by the Constitution. So to say this is federally legal is somewhat incorrect. It is legal in the state but the federal level doesn't see that way. More than likely these laws will end up in front of the Supreme Court and then it will interpret the Constitution and whatever else they want in the way that supports the majority opinion on the court. Personally, I think your general view on this matter is what has brought the country to the point it is at now. You seem to try and find a way to rationalize the reduction of your rights by using different scenarios. Rationalize it anyway you want, it doesn't change the fact the federal government is overstepping their authority and taking away or restricting our rights. It is funny the comparisons you are making to try and pass off your rationalization of gun right restrictions. If everyone would be responsible for themselves, their children, their family and their property, there wouldn't need to be half the laws we have, half the social welfare programs, and half the prisons. However, everyone wants to blame someone else, lives off someone else and steal things from others. [/QUOTE]
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