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<blockquote data-quote="Werewolf" data-source="post: 1566095" data-attributes="member: 239"><p></p><p></p><p>Ahhhh...</p><p></p><p>Condesencion. Gotta love it.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately it is not I that has missed the point, rather it is you.</p><p></p><p><strong>Again:</strong> the point is that human beings can have the freedom to exercise their natural rights responsibly without a government stepping in and restricting the rights of those who do by simply punishing those who do not.</p><p></p><p>If a man shoots another he is guilty of assault. The man who does not is not. You take the gun away from the man who shot you so he can never do it again. Society has that right. What society does not have is the right to take it away from you or anyone else because they might at some point in the future shoot someone with it. Yet that is exactly what government does and on a regular basis and with the willing permission and participation of people like you who would rather be <em>safe</em> than free.</p><p></p><p>I will not argue that it is usually a loss to society when one of its members is lost but one must ask which cost is greater; the loss of a life or the loss to all of society members to freely and responsibly exercise natural rights. In the long run the answer is obvious to me.</p><p></p><p><strong>You don't take the gun away from; prohibit the ownership of nor restricts one's right to use it because there is the <span style="color: red">potential</span> that one might use it irresponsibly. Punish actions not the potential action. And that my friend is the POINT</strong></p><p></p><p>And don't kid yourself. All those who wish to exercise their right to own a fully automatic weapon <strong>are</strong> being punished because of a misguided belief that it is better to restrict the rights of the many to protect a few<span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>*</strong></span>. Sorry but that dog just won't hunt. It is the misguided attempt to protect people from themselves that has led us down the road to gun control, drug control, business control, food control and on and on and on. The nut jobs are even trying to tell us what we can eat and are by threatening federal funding telling us what our children can eat.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>*</strong></span>(yeah; I know. In OK we can own fully automatic weapons if we're prepared to jump thru all the hoops; beg for permission and pay an artificially high price created by a government concocted shortage but realistically how many people are gonna jump thru all those hoops?)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Where does it stop? I'll tell you. It won't stop. Ever. Every time a right is restricted and the people get used to it the powers that be step in and restrict it just a little more. just like turning up the heat in the pot with a frog in it until he is boiled to death; governments will continue to restrict rights until they have none left to restrict or the frog jumps out of the pot. And how do they do it? With silly catch phrases like reasonable gun control that most don't have the sense to question if the restriction really is reasonable.</p><p></p><p>Liberals are full of good intentions but as someone once said: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.</p><p></p><p>Its too bad that most people in our society today are perfectly happy with having their rights restricted in the name of safety for themselves or others. The USA has become a country of sheep, willing sheep because as time has gone by more and more like you Koshinn have bought into and believe the government is doing it all for us when nothing could be further from the truth.</p><p></p><p>Go ahead and bleat your way thru a safe and boring life. Its what sheep want. Its what they are; its what they do; at least until they're slaughtered and turned into stew.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Werewolf, post: 1566095, member: 239"] [COLOR="red"][/COLOR] Ahhhh... Condesencion. Gotta love it. Unfortunately it is not I that has missed the point, rather it is you. [B]Again:[/B] the point is that human beings can have the freedom to exercise their natural rights responsibly without a government stepping in and restricting the rights of those who do by simply punishing those who do not. If a man shoots another he is guilty of assault. The man who does not is not. You take the gun away from the man who shot you so he can never do it again. Society has that right. What society does not have is the right to take it away from you or anyone else because they might at some point in the future shoot someone with it. Yet that is exactly what government does and on a regular basis and with the willing permission and participation of people like you who would rather be [I]safe[/I] than free. I will not argue that it is usually a loss to society when one of its members is lost but one must ask which cost is greater; the loss of a life or the loss to all of society members to freely and responsibly exercise natural rights. In the long run the answer is obvious to me. [B]You don't take the gun away from; prohibit the ownership of nor restricts one's right to use it because there is the [COLOR="red"]potential[/COLOR] that one might use it irresponsibly. Punish actions not the potential action. And that my friend is the POINT[/B] And don't kid yourself. All those who wish to exercise their right to own a fully automatic weapon [B]are[/B] being punished because of a misguided belief that it is better to restrict the rights of the many to protect a few[size=4][B]*[/B][/size]. Sorry but that dog just won't hunt. It is the misguided attempt to protect people from themselves that has led us down the road to gun control, drug control, business control, food control and on and on and on. The nut jobs are even trying to tell us what we can eat and are by threatening federal funding telling us what our children can eat. [size=4][B]*[/B][/size](yeah; I know. In OK we can own fully automatic weapons if we're prepared to jump thru all the hoops; beg for permission and pay an artificially high price created by a government concocted shortage but realistically how many people are gonna jump thru all those hoops?) Where does it stop? I'll tell you. It won't stop. Ever. Every time a right is restricted and the people get used to it the powers that be step in and restrict it just a little more. just like turning up the heat in the pot with a frog in it until he is boiled to death; governments will continue to restrict rights until they have none left to restrict or the frog jumps out of the pot. And how do they do it? With silly catch phrases like reasonable gun control that most don't have the sense to question if the restriction really is reasonable. Liberals are full of good intentions but as someone once said: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Its too bad that most people in our society today are perfectly happy with having their rights restricted in the name of safety for themselves or others. The USA has become a country of sheep, willing sheep because as time has gone by more and more like you Koshinn have bought into and believe the government is doing it all for us when nothing could be further from the truth. Go ahead and bleat your way thru a safe and boring life. Its what sheep want. Its what they are; its what they do; at least until they're slaughtered and turned into stew. [/QUOTE]
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