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<blockquote data-quote="OKC9-12LEDR1" data-source="post: 2126222" data-attributes="member: 7700"><p>Thanks for starting this thread Okie Lady. I share your passion for herbal and essential oils as alternatives to modern medicine. My mother has been involved with a host of different supplement and 2 essential oil companies. All of these were MLM (Multi level marketing) businesses and for that reason above all others, I steered away from getting involved. First off because I detest MLM businesses and secondly I was young and dumb and took my health for granted. I got my slap up side the head moment a few years ago when I developed a hypertension condition (high blood pressure). My wife of going on 40 years now had already been dealing with MS for over 20 years and was also being adversely effected by a thyroid condition. She was really starting to decline from the effects of these auto immune diseases. Despite the MS, she loved to spend time at the gym. She did aerobics for years, loved to run, but we could see a marked decline in her abilities to live something of a normal life. All of these problems we were developing in our later years prompted me to look into alternatives to taking the pink pills modern medicine was pushing on us. I have found a whole new world I didn't know existed, nor cared for that matter until it effected me / us directly. </p><p></p><p>I am what I call a serous prepper, to most I am just paranoid. To each his own. Having the prepper mindset that I do, being reliant on how many pills I could store up in case things go bad in this country didn't make a lot of sense. I set off on my own journey of discovery. Right off I realized that this was something that would take time, a lot of time to learn. </p><p></p><p>The first herb I looked at to help with my wife's thyroid condition was Kelp. Like any herb, the list of possible herbal actions was quite long. The thing that caught my eye was the amount of natural iodine that it contained. My wife determined with a quick self test that she was extremely deficient in iodine. A drop of iodine on the skin should take roughly 24 hours to disappear and dissolve into the skin. Hers was gone in 3 hours. She looked at some online sources and found she had 28 of the 30 symptoms of a hypothyroid condition. Most anyone else would have gone to the hospital, ended up on a cupboard full of expensive pills and been a slave to them for the rest of her probably shorter life. </p><p></p><p>I had already started to buy up several herbs, both cut and powdered. I made up several capsules of powdered Kelp, and made a tea consisting of </p><p>Calendula - which is also high in iodine</p><p>Chamomile - high in vitamins B1, B2, B3, calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Niacin, Selenium and Zinc</p><p>Peppermint - high in vitamins B1, B2, B3, C, Chromium, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese and Selenium </p><p>Spearmint - This one is added for taste</p><p>Dandelion - E, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese, Zinc</p><p>Yellow Dock - B1, B2, B3, B5, C, Chromium, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese, Selenium</p><p>Licorice - B3, Magnesium</p><p></p><p>I saw a marked improvement in her in just 48 hours, in 72 hours she was a different person. That was over 2 years ago. Fast forward to now, my wife can now spend time at the gym once again. I often find her running through the neighborhood on my drive home from work. This fall, once it cooled down, she ran a 10K in 59 minutes. That is 1 minute for each year of age. She started that when she was 45. I could see the smile on her face, the excitement in her voice that she was able to once again reach her goal. Now she is talking how she will some day run a 10K in 80 minutes. I hope we are both around here in 21 years to see her do that. </p><p></p><p>It has been a daily regime for me for over 2 years now to make us both an herbal tea in the morning, along with refilling a host of herbal capsules. I recently went to see a lady friend of mine who is a master herbalist. I met with her to ask her opinion on the herbs and oils we were both taking. She agreed with all of what I was doing, but did tell me that was combining some herbs that should not be combined. Not that that caused any real problem, it was that certain herbs will negate the effects of others if taken at the same time. Some herbs contain Tannins, those will prevent the absorption of other vitamins and minerals if taken together. Now I am combining herbs like Spirulina, beat root and hawthorn leaf into a single capsule rather than individual ones. Those I take in the morning and those with the Tannins like Bilberry, Nettle and Valerian I take at night. I mix Kelp, Black Walnut Hull and Chamomile together in capsules. I also have a blend of the hot herbs, Cayenne, Garlic and Cinnamon that I take after lunch. An excellent heart herb for those with BP conditions is Hawthorn Leaf. </p><p></p><p>My herbalist friend suggested that I look into getting more Omega 3 oils into my system, that would help with my heart health. I started eating Chia seeds but I have found that that is only half of the equation, I have just ordered some Krill oil supplements, many say that is a better source for Omega 3 than salmon oil. </p><p>Make sure if you are taking salmon oils, find out where the fish being used are harvested. Many of them are taken from the waters near Alaska. Those regions have been extremely polluted by the Fukushima disaster and you should look for an alternative. Krill comes mostly from the waters around the antarctic and are more pure than those in Salmon. </p><p></p><p>One of the biggest challenges I ran up against in my quest for knowledge in herbs and oils was how many different actions there were for each herb. How do you know which one will work for you, the answer was you don't. In most cases it comes down to personal experimentation. Most of the time you don't know for several weeks or even months if what you are doing is really helping. We were fortunate to have seen the virtually overnight response we did to those herbs I gave my wife for her thyroid, but that is a rarity. </p><p></p><p>That is main problem I see in modern medicine. So they can package and sell the pills, they try and derive a single element in an herb that they feel is causing the change. What I have learned is that it is never a single element that we are deficient in, but rather a host of them. They combine to cause the health problem, and you cannot address that problem with a single element. That often results in another side effect, like the body becomes reliant on a certain element that it would normally produce on it's own if it had the right combination of things present to do so. Those things are often not there any more, mostly due to the poor quality of our foods these days, or the typical fast food diet of the average American. That is a whole different subject. </p><p></p><p>I realize I have spun off topic to an extent, but hopefully those that bothered to read it all will understand that there are alternatives to the health challenges we face today. Most won't put forth the effort but choose to put their health in the hands of others. I made the decision to do just the opposite. If you think things will be anything but much worse under the new health care system being implemented, you are sadly mistaken. I have a close friend who's business is programming software for the medical industry, mostly small DR's offices. The conversation we had a couple weeks ago should scare the hell our of all of us. The end result of the coming health care system will be a person who inputs your medical conditions / symptoms into a data base and the computer program will decide what medications you will be prescribed. That is unless you are too old and not a benefit to society any longer and they choose to give you something to end you life rather than prolong it. The doctor is being taken out of the loop. </p><p></p><p>To me prepping is a mindset more than just stocking up shelves, buying beans, bullets and band aids. The one prep that most choose to ignore is yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OKC9-12LEDR1, post: 2126222, member: 7700"] Thanks for starting this thread Okie Lady. I share your passion for herbal and essential oils as alternatives to modern medicine. My mother has been involved with a host of different supplement and 2 essential oil companies. All of these were MLM (Multi level marketing) businesses and for that reason above all others, I steered away from getting involved. First off because I detest MLM businesses and secondly I was young and dumb and took my health for granted. I got my slap up side the head moment a few years ago when I developed a hypertension condition (high blood pressure). My wife of going on 40 years now had already been dealing with MS for over 20 years and was also being adversely effected by a thyroid condition. She was really starting to decline from the effects of these auto immune diseases. Despite the MS, she loved to spend time at the gym. She did aerobics for years, loved to run, but we could see a marked decline in her abilities to live something of a normal life. All of these problems we were developing in our later years prompted me to look into alternatives to taking the pink pills modern medicine was pushing on us. I have found a whole new world I didn't know existed, nor cared for that matter until it effected me / us directly. I am what I call a serous prepper, to most I am just paranoid. To each his own. Having the prepper mindset that I do, being reliant on how many pills I could store up in case things go bad in this country didn't make a lot of sense. I set off on my own journey of discovery. Right off I realized that this was something that would take time, a lot of time to learn. The first herb I looked at to help with my wife's thyroid condition was Kelp. Like any herb, the list of possible herbal actions was quite long. The thing that caught my eye was the amount of natural iodine that it contained. My wife determined with a quick self test that she was extremely deficient in iodine. A drop of iodine on the skin should take roughly 24 hours to disappear and dissolve into the skin. Hers was gone in 3 hours. She looked at some online sources and found she had 28 of the 30 symptoms of a hypothyroid condition. Most anyone else would have gone to the hospital, ended up on a cupboard full of expensive pills and been a slave to them for the rest of her probably shorter life. I had already started to buy up several herbs, both cut and powdered. I made up several capsules of powdered Kelp, and made a tea consisting of Calendula - which is also high in iodine Chamomile - high in vitamins B1, B2, B3, calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Niacin, Selenium and Zinc Peppermint - high in vitamins B1, B2, B3, C, Chromium, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese and Selenium Spearmint - This one is added for taste Dandelion - E, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese, Zinc Yellow Dock - B1, B2, B3, B5, C, Chromium, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese, Selenium Licorice - B3, Magnesium I saw a marked improvement in her in just 48 hours, in 72 hours she was a different person. That was over 2 years ago. Fast forward to now, my wife can now spend time at the gym once again. I often find her running through the neighborhood on my drive home from work. This fall, once it cooled down, she ran a 10K in 59 minutes. That is 1 minute for each year of age. She started that when she was 45. I could see the smile on her face, the excitement in her voice that she was able to once again reach her goal. Now she is talking how she will some day run a 10K in 80 minutes. I hope we are both around here in 21 years to see her do that. It has been a daily regime for me for over 2 years now to make us both an herbal tea in the morning, along with refilling a host of herbal capsules. I recently went to see a lady friend of mine who is a master herbalist. I met with her to ask her opinion on the herbs and oils we were both taking. She agreed with all of what I was doing, but did tell me that was combining some herbs that should not be combined. Not that that caused any real problem, it was that certain herbs will negate the effects of others if taken at the same time. Some herbs contain Tannins, those will prevent the absorption of other vitamins and minerals if taken together. Now I am combining herbs like Spirulina, beat root and hawthorn leaf into a single capsule rather than individual ones. Those I take in the morning and those with the Tannins like Bilberry, Nettle and Valerian I take at night. I mix Kelp, Black Walnut Hull and Chamomile together in capsules. I also have a blend of the hot herbs, Cayenne, Garlic and Cinnamon that I take after lunch. An excellent heart herb for those with BP conditions is Hawthorn Leaf. My herbalist friend suggested that I look into getting more Omega 3 oils into my system, that would help with my heart health. I started eating Chia seeds but I have found that that is only half of the equation, I have just ordered some Krill oil supplements, many say that is a better source for Omega 3 than salmon oil. Make sure if you are taking salmon oils, find out where the fish being used are harvested. Many of them are taken from the waters near Alaska. Those regions have been extremely polluted by the Fukushima disaster and you should look for an alternative. Krill comes mostly from the waters around the antarctic and are more pure than those in Salmon. One of the biggest challenges I ran up against in my quest for knowledge in herbs and oils was how many different actions there were for each herb. How do you know which one will work for you, the answer was you don't. In most cases it comes down to personal experimentation. Most of the time you don't know for several weeks or even months if what you are doing is really helping. We were fortunate to have seen the virtually overnight response we did to those herbs I gave my wife for her thyroid, but that is a rarity. That is main problem I see in modern medicine. So they can package and sell the pills, they try and derive a single element in an herb that they feel is causing the change. What I have learned is that it is never a single element that we are deficient in, but rather a host of them. They combine to cause the health problem, and you cannot address that problem with a single element. That often results in another side effect, like the body becomes reliant on a certain element that it would normally produce on it's own if it had the right combination of things present to do so. Those things are often not there any more, mostly due to the poor quality of our foods these days, or the typical fast food diet of the average American. That is a whole different subject. I realize I have spun off topic to an extent, but hopefully those that bothered to read it all will understand that there are alternatives to the health challenges we face today. Most won't put forth the effort but choose to put their health in the hands of others. I made the decision to do just the opposite. If you think things will be anything but much worse under the new health care system being implemented, you are sadly mistaken. I have a close friend who's business is programming software for the medical industry, mostly small DR's offices. The conversation we had a couple weeks ago should scare the hell our of all of us. The end result of the coming health care system will be a person who inputs your medical conditions / symptoms into a data base and the computer program will decide what medications you will be prescribed. That is unless you are too old and not a benefit to society any longer and they choose to give you something to end you life rather than prolong it. The doctor is being taken out of the loop. To me prepping is a mindset more than just stocking up shelves, buying beans, bullets and band aids. The one prep that most choose to ignore is yourself. [/QUOTE]
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