Here Are The Photos Of Obama’s Illegal Immigrant Detention Facilities The Media Won’t Show You

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DAVE70968 ...... it totally does apply to this situation and I understand parental rights and laws. What rights did he have or his fiduciary have to apply for Asylum(isn't this the same asylum the Mexican Border folks and children are seeking???) for him through his relatives? It's extremely funny or ironic how the Central and Southern Americans are allowed or at least "sorted" out and the ones deemed okay allowed to apply. His mother and boyfriend fleeing not only a poor country but a Communist Country, one that Fidel ruled with an iron fist...that's not enough for the past Democrats and President to step in and help...like they're doing to President Trump now?

Why did Clinton and Reno not step in and help him....AND....keep him from going back to a Communist country that his mother, her boyfriend, and her child were fleeing?

Bottom line: The point I was trying to make is that the LIBS and DEMOS darn sure pick and chose what laws and social issues they want to help and ignore.....must be who's in the Whitehouse when they'll respond or how they'll respond.
Parents--remember, it was his mom who brought him--have a lot of power over/right-to-act for their children. With her dead, all parental rights vest in his father, who withdrew the application, and had to fight to get him returned over the wishes of his cousins here in the US (whose rights as kin are junior to dad's).

Sorry, but sending him back to the person who had all rights to him was the correct thing to do. I don't like consigning people to life under Communism, but I like disregarding the rule of law and parents' rights even more. If my son's mom were to try to remove him from the country against my wishes, I'd fight like hell to prevent it.
 

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What I'm trying to show is: The Democrats and Libtard want to keep the family of immigrants together. Why didn't they back then?

That kid's father damn sure better say he wants him back home and back in Cuba. Do you understand what would have happened to that family if he stated he wanted his son to have a better life in America?

Why didn't anyone...especially the Demos and Libtard try to "trade" for them to come to America and be a family here? Better life...better opportunities.

Why not have our Government offer money...food....fertilizer...anything to get his family in America? If that couldn't happen...why not public.donations...where was Hollywood to raise money to help? Where was the First Lady trying to help?


Funny how they want families to be together now and try to hurt President Trump.

Where was this "family" issue with this back then?


Let me leave you with this:

When I lived in Houston some friends and I were eating at a restaurant and there was Yao Ming eating at a table. When we were leaving a few of my buddies spoke to him. One jokingly asked him of he was going to defect. He didn't answer a word...the look on his face said it all. **** storm for.his family back in China if he even thought about that.

Just like the little Cuban boy's dad...yes I want my son back...yes I want him back in Cuba.
 

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If these people indeed are fleeing from violence that they like to claim then why not go to another country to seek asylum? There are plenty in South America. They could also go to Mexico. But no, none of those offer the benefits that America has so they come here. It isn’t about them fleeing violence. It’s about money and benefits. Period. Look at the media stories. They are doing everything to make people feel sorry for the kids, the parents, because of the “violence” in their country. If the media is pushing this that hard you know it’s a lie. They want them here because they want open borders. They want to allow anyone to just come on in. The more the merrier. As I said before, we cannot run a country based off of emotions. Even if these people were fleeing from violence. Are we supposed to let anyone in because of it? What about all the criminals that are pouring in? Oh wait, according to the media none of them are criminals. They are all saints that love America and just want a better life. Look at nations like Germany that have allowed tons of people to seek asylum. They’re country is being ruined by it. Women getting raped and all kinds of other things. Oh wait, the same thing is happening here. These illegals are raping and murdering people. We don’t have an obligation to anyone. We should worry about us and no one else. If we did our country would truly be a great nation again. As long as we continue to put other countries citizens ahead of our own we will continue to plummet down the toilet.
 

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Tony...totally agree!!! What the kick in the nuts is....why don't our Southern Border friends try...try...try...to improve THEIR country and NOT turn ours into a third world country? They have resources, they have manpower, why not use them for the benefit of their country.

Maybe the Democrats and libtards need more voters and members in their organizations?

I hear how they want to HELP them when they enter our country. Why not take bus loads of Democrats and Libtard South of the Border to help them THERE?
 

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Dems = The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight!!! :rolleyes2 :rollingla :rotflmao:


http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...daily&utm_content=links&utm_campaign=20180621
Report: Democrats Have Been Protesting ‘Wrong’ Border Shelter
21 Jun 2018

"A tent city in Tornillo, Texas, that Democrats have been using as a site for protests against President Donald Trump’s border policies turns out not to be housing children separated from their parents after all, according to the Austin American-Statesman.

The newspaper reports that the tent city houses unaccompanied minors, not children who crossed the border illegally with adults."...
 
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Border patrol agent: Kids are treated humanely
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"Border patrol agent Chris Cabrera assures CNN's Brooke Baldwin that children separated from their parents at the border are treated humanely."
 

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Oh wait, the same thing is happening here. These illegals are raping and murdering people. We don’t have an obligation to anyone. We should worry about us and no one else. If we did our country would truly be a great nation again. As long as we continue to put other countries citizens ahead of our own we will continue to plummet down the toilet.

Here is an interesting link to the crimes committed by illegal immigrants.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/10155/9-things-you-need-know-about-illegal-immigration-aaron-bandler

1. Federal, state and local governments keep data involving illegal immigration and crime out of the public purview. Fox News reported in 2015 that a source from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said "that comprehensive statistics on illegal immigrant crime are not available from the federal government, and suggested contacting county, state and federal jail and prison systems individually to compose a tally, a process that would encompass thousands of local departments."

Former Department of Justice attorney J. Christian Adams also told Fox News that some states do readily track illegal immigration and crime, but they withhold the specific numbers from the public out of fear of backlash from the federal government or for political purposes.

However, there is still some data that can be pieced together to examine illegal immigration and crime, and evidence suggests that there is a correlation between the two.

2. Available evidence suggests that illegals are more likely to commit crimes than the rest of the population. Fox News sorted through myriad "local, state and federal statistics" and found that "illegal immigrants are three times as likely to be convicted of murder as members of the general population and account for far more crimes than their 3.5-percent share of the U.S. population would suggest."

The percentage of illegals committing the number of crimes are as follows, according to Fox News:

  • 13.6 percent of those sentenced for all committed crimes in the country
  • 12 percent of murder sentences
  • 16 percent of trafficking sentences
3. Almost 50 percent of federal crimes were committed near the Mexico border. A report from the Department of Justice in 2014 found the following, via Judicial Watch:

Of the 61,529 criminal cases initiated by federal prosecutors last fiscal year, more than 40%—or 24,746—were filed in court districts neighboring the Mexican border. This includes Arizona, New Mexico, Southern California, Western Texas and Southern Texas. The two Texas districts each had more than double the convictions of all four federal court districts in the state of New York combined, according to the DOJ report. The Western Texas District had the nation’s heaviest crime flow, with 6,341 cases filed by the feds. In Southern Texas 6,130 cases were filed, 4,848 in Southern California, 3,889 in New Mexico and 3,538 in Arizona.

Not surprisingly, most of the offenses were immigration related. In fact, 38.6% of all federal cases (23,744) filed last year involved immigration, the DOJ report confirms. Nearly 22% (13,383) were drug related, 19.7% (12,123) were violent crimes and 10.2% (6,300) involved white-collar offenses that include a full range of frauds committed by business and government professionals. This is hardly earth-shattering news in fact, the nation’s southern border region has for years been known for its high crime rate compared to the rest of the country.

Judicial Watch also notes that the crimes near the border had been spiking at such an "alarming rate" that "Mexican and American journalists have largely stopped reporting it," whether for ideological reasons or to avoid backlash from the drug cartels.

4. Illegal immigrants accounted for nearly 75 percent of federal drug sentences in 2014. This is according to the United States Sentencing Commission, which also found that illegals were involved in nearly 17 percent of drug-trafficking sentences and over 33 percent of federal sentences overall.

5. A disproportionate amount of illegals are in state prisons. Peter Kirsanow, a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and a lawyer, reviewed statistics from the Government Accountability Office and Pew Research Center and compared the number of illegals and non-illegals imprisoned for murder-related offenses in a 2015 National Review piece. Some of his findings:

  • There were 68.57 illegal aliens imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in Arizona, compared to 54.06 citizens and legal noncitizens imprisoned for every 100,000 citizens and legal noncitizens.
  • There were 97.2 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in California, compared to 74.1 citizens and legal noncitizens imprisoned per 100,000 citizen and legal noncitizens.
  • There were 54.85 illegals imprisoned for every 100,00 illegals in Florida, compared to 67.8 legal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 legal immigrants.
  • There were 168.75 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in New York, compared to 48.12 legal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 legal immigrants.
  • There were 54.54 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in Texas, compared to 65.43 legal immigrants .
Kirsanow acknowledged that while comparing murder incarceration rates isn't a perfect measurement, "it’s difficult to contend that illegal aliens are more law-abiding than legal residents — at least when it comes to major crimes." But the more disturbing fact was that "approximately 2,430 illegal aliens are in prison just for homicide-related offenses" in California alone.

"If one assumes that each illegal alien so imprisoned was responsible for just one homicide-related offense, that amounts to about a couple thousand major crimes that, arguably, wouldn’t have occurred but for the actors’ unlawful presence in the United States," Kirsanow notes. "That translates to thousands of American citizens (and others) across the country slaughtered by individuals who shouldn’t have been here in the first place."

6. Tens of thousands of criminal illegals have been released by ICE and are at large in the country. In 2015, ICE released almost 20,000 illegals that committed 64,000 crimes that involve "12,307 drunken driving convictions, 1,728 cases of assault, 216 kidnappings and more than 200 homicide or manslaughter convictions," according to the Washington Times. It's even worse when one considers the fact that the Obama administration released "86,000 illegal immigrants who have committed over 231,000 crimes in just the past two and a half years," according to Independent Journal Review.

7. The rise in illegals crossing the border has fueled gang violence. In March, the Daily Caller reported that the barbaric MS-13 gang has been recruiting young illegals, resulting in higher crime in the Washington, D.C area. In fact, Montgomery County in Maryland "has seen an unprecedented level of gang-related violence in the last 8 months - with illegal immigrant youth being responsible for 85 percent of street robberies," according to IJ Review. The horrors of MS-13 have extended to the Brentwood community in Long Island, NY, where the remains of a dead teenagerwas found for the fifth time in six weeks, likely the result of MS-13.

8. Sanctuary cities have hampered law enforcement in cracking down on gangs.Heather Mac Donald documented the frustrations of Los Angeles law enforcement officers in 2004 when they couldn't touch known gang members because of their status as illegals:

“We can’t even talk about it,” says a frustrated LAPD captain. “People are afraid of a backlash from Hispanics.” Another LAPD commander in a predominantly Hispanic, gang-infested district sighs: “I would get a firestorm of criticism if I talked about [enforcing the immigration law against illegals].”

The issue is that these gang members tended to sneak back into the country even after they were deported for heinous crimes, and police officers couldn't enforce immigration laws against them and would have to resort to surveilling these gang members until they commit a crime.

While these statistics from Mac Donald's piece are dated, it illustrates just how badly the sanctuary policy has hampered crime:

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.

Unsurprisingly, violent crime has skyrocketed recently in Los Angeles as illegal immigration has surged. In fact, crime among sanctuary cities in general has increased.

9. Crime has also increased among major cities that are "immigration hubs." Daily Wire editor-in-chief Ben Shapiro has written:

David Frum of The Atlantic, no hard-core immigration opponent, wrote in 2015 that as of 2011, there were 25,000 illegal immigrants serving murder sentences, and nearly 3 million offenses committed by illegal immigrants between 2003 and 2009, including 70,000 sex crimes and hundreds of thousands of other violent crimes. “After years of welcome decline,” Frum pointed out, “crime rates are rising in immigration hubs including Houston, Milwaukee, Phoenix, and San Diego.” Former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo reported in 2015 that between “2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In New York it was 34% and Arizona 17.8%. During those years, criminal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6% of the total population in those states.

Some individual examples of those who were victimized by illegals can be seen hereand here.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/examples-serious-crimes-illegal-aliens
 

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