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Here we go again, another school shooting. This time in Texas
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<blockquote data-quote="Lakenut" data-source="post: 3785965" data-attributes="member: 30258"><p>So the police waited outside 40 min for the border patrol “swat” team to show up and go in? If true, that alone cost lives. I think we are still in that foggy period where the truth and fiction get tangled up.</p><p></p><p>Mental health is the obvious root of these kinds of things. While we sort out the best way to deal with the sickos, school security is(at least should be) the easier task to tackle.</p><p></p><p>So me thinking out loud…..after Sept 11 our country took a “never again” approach. We didn’t ban airplanes. We didn’t close airports. We didn’t tell people to stop flying. </p><p></p><p>We changed the way people flow into the airport. We changed security screenings. We beefed up cockpit doors. We put plain clothed air martials on flights. AND we realized evil is persistent and might slip through the cracks leaving pilots (the ones in control of the aircraft) sitting ducks so we allowed them to be trained and conceal carry. We addressed the threat at many levels….created a system of redundancy if you will. So far we haven’t had another incident of the flight being taken over since. We also haven’t had one single incident of anyone being hurt by a pilot carrying a gun.</p><p></p><p>As a teacher myself we have taken baby steps in the right direction at my school district. All outside doors remain locked 24/7 and staff gain access with an electronic keycard. However, glass is easily breakable. We have one public access point and visitors must scan into a computer system via DL and then be buzzed in by the secretary. Again, lots of glass involved. I highly doubt any of it is ballistic glass. We have an SRO who is in our building 90% of the time—he even has a gun safe in the office with a rifle. This is where the security plan stops. That is literally 100% of the plan until backup shows up. Until that happens we are sitting ducks. It is lock the doors and hide or throw spitballs at the perp.</p><p></p><p> If reports are accurate this time, the perp defeated 100% of the security plan in the first min or two and had 38 min. to do whatever he wanted.</p><p></p><p>Being someone who carries concealed outside of work, I would be happy to pay for whatever training the local LEO felt necessary for me to carry at work. To me it just makes sense to allow teachers to carry if we want to put an end to these horrific events. </p><p></p><p>The biggest argument I have heard from LEO concerning armed teachers is a friendly fire incident where LEO shows up, sees teacher with a gun and mistakes him/her as the perp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lakenut, post: 3785965, member: 30258"] So the police waited outside 40 min for the border patrol “swat” team to show up and go in? If true, that alone cost lives. I think we are still in that foggy period where the truth and fiction get tangled up. Mental health is the obvious root of these kinds of things. While we sort out the best way to deal with the sickos, school security is(at least should be) the easier task to tackle. So me thinking out loud…..after Sept 11 our country took a “never again” approach. We didn’t ban airplanes. We didn’t close airports. We didn’t tell people to stop flying. We changed the way people flow into the airport. We changed security screenings. We beefed up cockpit doors. We put plain clothed air martials on flights. AND we realized evil is persistent and might slip through the cracks leaving pilots (the ones in control of the aircraft) sitting ducks so we allowed them to be trained and conceal carry. We addressed the threat at many levels….created a system of redundancy if you will. So far we haven’t had another incident of the flight being taken over since. We also haven’t had one single incident of anyone being hurt by a pilot carrying a gun. As a teacher myself we have taken baby steps in the right direction at my school district. All outside doors remain locked 24/7 and staff gain access with an electronic keycard. However, glass is easily breakable. We have one public access point and visitors must scan into a computer system via DL and then be buzzed in by the secretary. Again, lots of glass involved. I highly doubt any of it is ballistic glass. We have an SRO who is in our building 90% of the time—he even has a gun safe in the office with a rifle. This is where the security plan stops. That is literally 100% of the plan until backup shows up. Until that happens we are sitting ducks. It is lock the doors and hide or throw spitballs at the perp. If reports are accurate this time, the perp defeated 100% of the security plan in the first min or two and had 38 min. to do whatever he wanted. Being someone who carries concealed outside of work, I would be happy to pay for whatever training the local LEO felt necessary for me to carry at work. To me it just makes sense to allow teachers to carry if we want to put an end to these horrific events. The biggest argument I have heard from LEO concerning armed teachers is a friendly fire incident where LEO shows up, sees teacher with a gun and mistakes him/her as the perp. [/QUOTE]
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