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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3911238" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>it's a horrible job, that's why i don't do it lol.</p><p></p><p>i dunno.</p><p></p><p>let me restart with a thought experiment based on reality that i touched on briefly earlier:</p><p></p><p>a person is livestreaming from their computer in their house. they are playing a video game while interacting online with thousands if not millions of people, instantly.</p><p></p><p>one of these people, maybe multiple people, all know the streamer's address. these people could be minors, likely are minors. they could be 12. let's say they are 12.</p><p></p><p>this 12 year old calls the police and says the person streaming (mind you, they are already streaming thus would fit into the theoretical psuedo illegal status this case is concerning, thus this is very relevant to the topic even they you may not think so i assure you please follow these are fun) has a hostage, a gun, and is making threats of violence.</p><p></p><p>the police send the swat unit, full tilt. door is broken open, streamer turns around and stands up, with hardcore gamer mouse still in hand, and gets immediately ventilated by about 30 shots.</p><p></p><p>meanwhile, the 12 year old that called in the tip is watching.</p><p></p><p>what do you think this child understood of the police? that they were for their safety? or they were a dog of the state that only exists for violence and can be exploited as easily as the AI in the game you are playing?</p><p></p><p>and if you think "well how could anyone know?!" you need to understand that *multiple* streamers have been swatted *multiple* times, this REALLY happens. you'd think after AT LEAST the first raid, you might i dunno have some sort of digital reference that could keep the physical address tied to the streamers url so you could check, literally in an instant, if the tip about the hostage situation or the bomb threat, or the shooter was legit or *just a literal child exploiting the gang violence of the state that is you*.</p><p></p><p>and, if you think THAT's the real threat; then we live in a dystopian future wherein the biggest threat isn't actual crime, but being killed by the "good guys" who were told you were a "bad guy" by a pissed off 12 year old that you were beating in an online game.</p><p></p><p>anyone who believes livestreaming is a threat to POLICE, when things like swatting are COMMON, does not believe in objective reality.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3911238, member: 45524"] it's a horrible job, that's why i don't do it lol. i dunno. let me restart with a thought experiment based on reality that i touched on briefly earlier: a person is livestreaming from their computer in their house. they are playing a video game while interacting online with thousands if not millions of people, instantly. one of these people, maybe multiple people, all know the streamer's address. these people could be minors, likely are minors. they could be 12. let's say they are 12. this 12 year old calls the police and says the person streaming (mind you, they are already streaming thus would fit into the theoretical psuedo illegal status this case is concerning, thus this is very relevant to the topic even they you may not think so i assure you please follow these are fun) has a hostage, a gun, and is making threats of violence. the police send the swat unit, full tilt. door is broken open, streamer turns around and stands up, with hardcore gamer mouse still in hand, and gets immediately ventilated by about 30 shots. meanwhile, the 12 year old that called in the tip is watching. what do you think this child understood of the police? that they were for their safety? or they were a dog of the state that only exists for violence and can be exploited as easily as the AI in the game you are playing? and if you think "well how could anyone know?!" you need to understand that *multiple* streamers have been swatted *multiple* times, this REALLY happens. you'd think after AT LEAST the first raid, you might i dunno have some sort of digital reference that could keep the physical address tied to the streamers url so you could check, literally in an instant, if the tip about the hostage situation or the bomb threat, or the shooter was legit or *just a literal child exploiting the gang violence of the state that is you*. and, if you think THAT's the real threat; then we live in a dystopian future wherein the biggest threat isn't actual crime, but being killed by the "good guys" who were told you were a "bad guy" by a pissed off 12 year old that you were beating in an online game. anyone who believes livestreaming is a threat to POLICE, when things like swatting are COMMON, does not believe in objective reality. [/QUOTE]
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