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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 3710522" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>Not to mention the Medicare deductible and cost of soonercare…the math is really complicated…why is it the cost would be so ****ing high in the USA but in Germany, Australia and every other industrialized country it is much lower? Does German or Australian healthcare suck? They have some of the best healthcare systems in the world with better outcomes…. Their people are healthier…. Have you seen a hospital bill without insurance, Medicaid/Medicare/tricare? Which by the way tricare is socialized medicine… it’s a ripoff. You could argue the reason costs are so high is because we don’t let insurance companies discriminate based on prior conditions and require emergency rooms to treat regardless of ability to pay…but is that really the society we want to live in?</p><p></p><p>personally I don’t think single payer is necessarily the answer…Switzerland, Germany and Australia all have multi payer systems, they’re just more highly regulated, everyone is guaranteed coverage and costs are negotiated by the gov.</p><p></p><p>You know who really benefits from a national health plan? Small business owners, the self employed and the disabled who can’t work… it’s kinda funny the everyone over 65 gets Medicare, and they’re the ones that use health care the most but instead of paying into the healthcare system the insurance companies are skimming off the top of the pool. Got diabetes? No coverage for you.</p><p></p><p>Capitalism is great.</p><p>Capitalism has made us the successful country we are today. But anyone who knows history is that there are people out there that will abuse the systems if there are not safeguards in place…</p><p></p><p>healthcare is not a choice. Sooner or later you’re going to need to use it. If we don’t regulate it, then it’ll only be there when it’s convenient for the insurance companies…when you pay the premiums and don’t use it…</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 3710522, member: 17825"] Not to mention the Medicare deductible and cost of soonercare…the math is really complicated…why is it the cost would be so ****ing high in the USA but in Germany, Australia and every other industrialized country it is much lower? Does German or Australian healthcare suck? They have some of the best healthcare systems in the world with better outcomes…. Their people are healthier…. Have you seen a hospital bill without insurance, Medicaid/Medicare/tricare? Which by the way tricare is socialized medicine… it’s a ripoff. You could argue the reason costs are so high is because we don’t let insurance companies discriminate based on prior conditions and require emergency rooms to treat regardless of ability to pay…but is that really the society we want to live in? personally I don’t think single payer is necessarily the answer…Switzerland, Germany and Australia all have multi payer systems, they’re just more highly regulated, everyone is guaranteed coverage and costs are negotiated by the gov. You know who really benefits from a national health plan? Small business owners, the self employed and the disabled who can’t work… it’s kinda funny the everyone over 65 gets Medicare, and they’re the ones that use health care the most but instead of paying into the healthcare system the insurance companies are skimming off the top of the pool. Got diabetes? No coverage for you. Capitalism is great. Capitalism has made us the successful country we are today. But anyone who knows history is that there are people out there that will abuse the systems if there are not safeguards in place… healthcare is not a choice. Sooner or later you’re going to need to use it. If we don’t regulate it, then it’ll only be there when it’s convenient for the insurance companies…when you pay the premiums and don’t use it… [/QUOTE]
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