Were you called on them?
No.
I saw them and they clearly wanted me to come ask for their permits, but I had better things to do.
Michael Brown
So Open Carry is and was not the scarry bug-a-boo that every LEO organization was saying it was going to be?(am I reading that right??)
Not yet it isnt...lolSo Open Carry is and was not the scarry bug-a-boo that every LEO organization was saying it was going to be?(am I reading that right??)
So Open Carry is and was not the scarry bug-a-boo that every LEO organization was saying it was going to be?(am I reading that right??)
Not every LEO organization said that...in fact many said it would be just like every other day..... Quit trying to start **** and go home.
So Open Carry is and was not the scarry bug-a-boo that every LEO organization was saying it was going to be?(am I reading that right??)
It's still very "scarry".
Michael Brown
I haven't encountered anyone yet.
From the polls on this very website, many permit holders said they would not be OC'ing. No surprise that OC is hard to find.
I thought the law says that leo's can ask to see your permit no matter what. But they do have to have probable cause to ask you to unholster your firearm and give it to them. They can also make you surrender your pistol if they have reasonable suspicion. This Is the way I understood it to be.
What the law says and how different agencies interpret it are completely different things.
The law does say that an officer may ask to see your permit if you are open carry. It does not require they do so, and many agencies are not asking for it if they have not been called out, or if you aren't acting suspicious. Agencies see this as a potential for complaints and possibly 4A lawsuits.
As far as disarming you, the only thing the law says is that they can not inspect your firearm with reasonable suspicion of a crime. This was meant to mean reasonable suspicion that the firearm was used in a crime, but that's not exactly how it is worded.
Even here on OSA different LEO's with different agencies have different opinions on what they are allowed to do. From reading some posts, it seems that during a traffic stop, some agencies allow officers to disarm someone for "officer safety" after they have notified the officer they have a firearm. Other agencies say the possession of the firearm and notification of said firearm puts it outside the scope of the initial stop and therefore you can't do anything with it.
Personally I would never unholster my firearm to give it to an officer. I don't need the partner that can't hear the conversation shoot me because he thinks I am going for my firearm. I would A) assure the officer that my holstered firearm has never caused harm to anyone, and B) if the officer persisted, I would not consent to, but would not resist their attempt to disarm me themselves.
