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<blockquote data-quote="SlugSlinger" data-source="post: 3239896" data-attributes="member: 7248"><p>I was this ‘’ close to buying some of these until I read the recent reviews. We’re these concerned in this thread as I didn't see them.</p><p></p><p>BEWARE, RECORDS WHEN SHUT OFF!!</p><p>EDITED: BEWARE! I previously gave this camera a Five Star review. I loved them, until today when I learned that they record Sound & Motion when they are TURNED OFF. I would turn them ON whenever I left my apartment and turned them OFF when I came home. Today I discovered, quite by accident, that the 2 cameras were recording ALL DAY LONG! One captured a cell phone conversation and another captured me completely naked when I was changing clothes. While the sound & motion was going on I received NO alerts of this activity. This hasn't happened before. I am horrified! Now I am being spied on in my own home. I now have both cameras unplugged & facing down. I can't tell you what is wrong. I do not recommend buying this camera.</p><p></p><p>Camera sending traffic to non-aws servers located outside us. No visibility / control over security of my own data in the cloud.</p><p>Not sure about how secure it is. They say they utilize a 3rd party called ThroughTek (offices in china and japan - none in US) to handle the transfer of videos. Wyze Cam claims the content is sent securely to aws. Examining the network traffic from camera shows that content is routed thru many providers including AWS, Linode (US) Vultr/Choopa (europe) and Aliyum/Alibaba (china). They seem to also utilize NTP server in Russia. To get more details.. search on web for "WyzeCam sending data to servers other than AWS" and you will find a Reddit article. How does Wyze ensure that ThroughTek is not eavesdropping?</p><p></p><p>For me to trust Wyze Cam, I need to have clear control over end to end encryption of my data to ensure no 3rd party has any way of accessing my videos. Why can't the data be sent directly from my cam to AWS (s3 bucket)? Why can I not have access to AWS logs (s3 logs) to review which other IP address has accessed (or attempted to access) my content? Just claiming that this is a secure solution, doesn't work for me.</p><p></p><p>Other than this security concern that I have, the end user experience is great for the camera in other respects. Of course the price is super good.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Spy alert!!!!!</p><p>The camera video quality is definitely good, but there is no privacy... Since there is no way to use the camera locally without their app and just using a regular app like "ip cam viewer" that simply uses RTSP, I ended up putting an SD card on it and disabling its internet access by assigning an IP that is restricted by my router...</p><p></p><p>Well, to my surprise, the camera is CHINESE intelligent and decided to change its macaddress to a new one (completely different from the one in the back label) in order to gain a new IP from my router and regain internet access.</p><p></p><p>Definitely not a safe cam for indoors...</p><p></p><p>(I should appear as a verified purchase... Although I bought the item directly from wyze I used amazon payments to pay for it).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SlugSlinger, post: 3239896, member: 7248"] I was this ‘’ close to buying some of these until I read the recent reviews. We’re these concerned in this thread as I didn't see them. BEWARE, RECORDS WHEN SHUT OFF!! EDITED: BEWARE! I previously gave this camera a Five Star review. I loved them, until today when I learned that they record Sound & Motion when they are TURNED OFF. I would turn them ON whenever I left my apartment and turned them OFF when I came home. Today I discovered, quite by accident, that the 2 cameras were recording ALL DAY LONG! One captured a cell phone conversation and another captured me completely naked when I was changing clothes. While the sound & motion was going on I received NO alerts of this activity. This hasn't happened before. I am horrified! Now I am being spied on in my own home. I now have both cameras unplugged & facing down. I can't tell you what is wrong. I do not recommend buying this camera. Camera sending traffic to non-aws servers located outside us. No visibility / control over security of my own data in the cloud. Not sure about how secure it is. They say they utilize a 3rd party called ThroughTek (offices in china and japan - none in US) to handle the transfer of videos. Wyze Cam claims the content is sent securely to aws. Examining the network traffic from camera shows that content is routed thru many providers including AWS, Linode (US) Vultr/Choopa (europe) and Aliyum/Alibaba (china). They seem to also utilize NTP server in Russia. To get more details.. search on web for "WyzeCam sending data to servers other than AWS" and you will find a Reddit article. How does Wyze ensure that ThroughTek is not eavesdropping? For me to trust Wyze Cam, I need to have clear control over end to end encryption of my data to ensure no 3rd party has any way of accessing my videos. Why can't the data be sent directly from my cam to AWS (s3 bucket)? Why can I not have access to AWS logs (s3 logs) to review which other IP address has accessed (or attempted to access) my content? Just claiming that this is a secure solution, doesn't work for me. Other than this security concern that I have, the end user experience is great for the camera in other respects. Of course the price is super good. Spy alert!!!!! The camera video quality is definitely good, but there is no privacy... Since there is no way to use the camera locally without their app and just using a regular app like "ip cam viewer" that simply uses RTSP, I ended up putting an SD card on it and disabling its internet access by assigning an IP that is restricted by my router... Well, to my surprise, the camera is CHINESE intelligent and decided to change its macaddress to a new one (completely different from the one in the back label) in order to gain a new IP from my router and regain internet access. Definitely not a safe cam for indoors... (I should appear as a verified purchase... Although I bought the item directly from wyze I used amazon payments to pay for it). [/QUOTE]
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