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<blockquote data-quote="_CY_" data-source="post: 2712685" data-attributes="member: 7629"><p>totally disagree ... being arrested for pot and a legal firearm are completely different from issue of having your cash/car seized base on what LEO's suspects might happen? for all we know Guion grew up in said crime ridden neighborhood and was making a trip back to deliver cash to folks that helped him growing up. </p><p></p><p>what happened to rights of 2A and rights of 4th amendment against unreasonable search/seizure? </p><p>last I heard one is innocent until proven guilty .. seizing your assets without a conviction is assuming guilt until you prove otherwise. the burden of proof of innocence now on you and waged against an opponent with unlimited resources with the ability to add charges or drop depending how much you fight to get your assets back. </p><p></p><p>thank goodness there's a trend by a few senators to change the federal law to prohibit seizure unless there's a conviction. which still may not go far enough as there are cases of folks growing pot for medical uses where seedlings are counted as full plants. now their house and all assets are being seized for growing a few extra pot plants. keep in mind these are folks NOT making profits $$$ from selling pot. how would you like to be say a 72 year cancer patient getting ready to lose their house due to growing more pot plants (seedlings) then allowed by law? <a href="http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/22/civil-asset-forfeiture-michigan-seizures-aclu-heritage-foundation-institute-justice/23737663/" target="_blank">http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/22/civil-asset-forfeiture-michigan-seizures-aclu-heritage-foundation-institute-justice/23737663/</a></p><p></p><p>=======</p><p></p><p>The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that:</p><p></p><p> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="_CY_, post: 2712685, member: 7629"] totally disagree ... being arrested for pot and a legal firearm are completely different from issue of having your cash/car seized base on what LEO's suspects might happen? for all we know Guion grew up in said crime ridden neighborhood and was making a trip back to deliver cash to folks that helped him growing up. what happened to rights of 2A and rights of 4th amendment against unreasonable search/seizure? last I heard one is innocent until proven guilty .. seizing your assets without a conviction is assuming guilt until you prove otherwise. the burden of proof of innocence now on you and waged against an opponent with unlimited resources with the ability to add charges or drop depending how much you fight to get your assets back. thank goodness there's a trend by a few senators to change the federal law to prohibit seizure unless there's a conviction. which still may not go far enough as there are cases of folks growing pot for medical uses where seedlings are counted as full plants. now their house and all assets are being seized for growing a few extra pot plants. keep in mind these are folks NOT making profits $$$ from selling pot. how would you like to be say a 72 year cancer patient getting ready to lose their house due to growing more pot plants (seedlings) then allowed by law? [url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/22/civil-asset-forfeiture-michigan-seizures-aclu-heritage-foundation-institute-justice/23737663/[/url] ======= The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." [/QUOTE]
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