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<blockquote data-quote="6 Strings" data-source="post: 2821542" data-attributes="member: 38393"><p>The concern about people being on a “no fly list” buying weapons (and explosives) has been around for a few years. </p><p></p><p>People who are known or suspected terrorists and watch listed can buy firearms (and explosives) if there are no disqualifying factors (felony, misdemeanor domestic abuse, posting under the name of ACE on this forum). </p><p></p><p>It gets worse. People on the no-fly list may not be watch listed as a known or suspected terrorist. They are on the no-fly list because they are a threat to aviation. </p><p></p><p>The conundrum is how to balance the right to keep and bear arms with national security and with that what parameters does our government have in deciding who can or cannot own a firearm? “Suspected” of being a terrorist or “suspected” to being a risk to aviation is enough not to be able to have a weapon? To this, how does one know if they are watch listed and what recourse do they have to prove their innocence beyond what is “suspicion” and association? </p><p></p><p>Example to what was mentioned ... Ted Kennedy was on a no-fly list not because he was a liberal ass clown who allowed his mistress to drown BUT because his name was similar to the name of someone “suspected” of terrorism. Kennedy was on a no-fly list but he could still buy a gun. BTW ... Ted Kennedy is now off the no-fly list and is six years sober. </p><p></p><p>What would be interesting to find out is how many people are watch listed and of those how many have actually tried to “legally” obtain a firearm. If (suspected) “terrorists” are anything like others with criminal intent they will not even try to “legally” obtain a firearm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="6 Strings, post: 2821542, member: 38393"] The concern about people being on a “no fly list” buying weapons (and explosives) has been around for a few years. People who are known or suspected terrorists and watch listed can buy firearms (and explosives) if there are no disqualifying factors (felony, misdemeanor domestic abuse, posting under the name of ACE on this forum). It gets worse. People on the no-fly list may not be watch listed as a known or suspected terrorist. They are on the no-fly list because they are a threat to aviation. The conundrum is how to balance the right to keep and bear arms with national security and with that what parameters does our government have in deciding who can or cannot own a firearm? “Suspected” of being a terrorist or “suspected” to being a risk to aviation is enough not to be able to have a weapon? To this, how does one know if they are watch listed and what recourse do they have to prove their innocence beyond what is “suspicion” and association? Example to what was mentioned ... Ted Kennedy was on a no-fly list not because he was a liberal ass clown who allowed his mistress to drown BUT because his name was similar to the name of someone “suspected” of terrorism. Kennedy was on a no-fly list but he could still buy a gun. BTW ... Ted Kennedy is now off the no-fly list and is six years sober. What would be interesting to find out is how many people are watch listed and of those how many have actually tried to “legally” obtain a firearm. If (suspected) “terrorists” are anything like others with criminal intent they will not even try to “legally” obtain a firearm. [/QUOTE]
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