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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 2832554" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>I don't think what i've said is at all a 'turn around', i think it's a mental disorder that requires treatment. If the homosexual/transexual whatever doesn't want treatment, that's his decision. No one should be forced into doing anything, but i reserve my right to disagree with it. And if we develop a way to change a homosexual's sexual preference, and he wishes to change it, we should offer that to him as a choice. Or if it can be determined at birth that the individual is a homosexual, than the parent may be offered the choice to change it before he grows into it. I think it's bad for society. </p><p></p><p>We should treat homosexuality/pedophilia/transsexuality like we treat anxiety. Calling for treatment for an individual with anxiety is not a judging them for having anxiety; i'm not judging them or their anxiety, i'm merely recognizing what i see as a problem and saying we should offer treatment. An individual with an anxiety disorder is not defined by his anxiety; likewise an individual with homosexuality is not defined by it, unless he so chooses to be.</p><p></p><p>It's absurd to even insinuate that saying we should develop treatment for those people of deviant sexual behaviors is somehow a negative judgment. The crux of your argument is that homosexuality/transexuality is not a negative thing and that by calling it a negative thing i'm being judgmental. </p><p></p><p>The problem with that argument is that i fundamentally disagree with the idea that it's not harmful to society, morality and to the individuals themselves.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, if you call yourself a conservative and support homosexuality than i would say you have betrayed one of the fundamental pillars of the conservative movement. That is my opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Apparently opposing homosexuality and calling for treatment for them is comparable to being joseph mengele. You guys should watch out, my opposition to homosexuality makes me a threat to society. Rick Santorum is probably the next Osama bin Laden.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You've managed to gather from a few dozen posts that i suffer from some mental disorder. I've already said it before, but as a result of my work i've been thoroughly tested by mental health professionals and had to take a myriad of psychological testing(e.g. mmpi and rorschach) and i passed all of them. So perhaps it is true that maybe i do suffer from a mental disorder that i've somehow yet to discover, but i don't think that personal attack makes my argument any less legitimate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So far, the only thing backfiring is people who support homosexuality coming on here and insulting my intelligence, petty name-calling, and making insinuations about my mental health and my sexual orientation. You call me judgmental, but look in the mirror before you drop the 'you're just judgmental' hammer.</p><p></p><p>Yes, i oppose homosexuality. I judge people, all the time. I judge people i do business with, i judge people i associate with, i judge people i am friends with, hell i even judge my family.</p><p></p><p>And you're damn straight i judge homosexuals. I judge homosexuals to suffer from a mental illness that requires treatment. I judge homosexuals to often engage in acts of sodomy, pedophilia and beastiality. I also judge rapists, murderers, thieves and self-righteous people who feel that those who oppose homosexuality on religious or moral grounds are nothing but a bunch of mean-spirited trolls, bigots and retards. </p><p></p><p>But just because i oppose homosexuality, doesn't mean i've never done anything to personally wrong a person who was homosexual, or that i have any ill-will towards homosexuals as people. I disagree with their lifestyle, i disagree with their choices and actions. That doesn't mean i am joseph mengele and my goal is to force my beliefs down their throats. But i reserve the right to choose with whom i associate and do business with, as a free man in what used to be a free country.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 2832554, member: 17825"] I don't think what i've said is at all a 'turn around', i think it's a mental disorder that requires treatment. If the homosexual/transexual whatever doesn't want treatment, that's his decision. No one should be forced into doing anything, but i reserve my right to disagree with it. And if we develop a way to change a homosexual's sexual preference, and he wishes to change it, we should offer that to him as a choice. Or if it can be determined at birth that the individual is a homosexual, than the parent may be offered the choice to change it before he grows into it. I think it's bad for society. We should treat homosexuality/pedophilia/transsexuality like we treat anxiety. Calling for treatment for an individual with anxiety is not a judging them for having anxiety; i'm not judging them or their anxiety, i'm merely recognizing what i see as a problem and saying we should offer treatment. An individual with an anxiety disorder is not defined by his anxiety; likewise an individual with homosexuality is not defined by it, unless he so chooses to be. It's absurd to even insinuate that saying we should develop treatment for those people of deviant sexual behaviors is somehow a negative judgment. The crux of your argument is that homosexuality/transexuality is not a negative thing and that by calling it a negative thing i'm being judgmental. The problem with that argument is that i fundamentally disagree with the idea that it's not harmful to society, morality and to the individuals themselves. Yes, if you call yourself a conservative and support homosexuality than i would say you have betrayed one of the fundamental pillars of the conservative movement. That is my opinion. Apparently opposing homosexuality and calling for treatment for them is comparable to being joseph mengele. You guys should watch out, my opposition to homosexuality makes me a threat to society. Rick Santorum is probably the next Osama bin Laden. You've managed to gather from a few dozen posts that i suffer from some mental disorder. I've already said it before, but as a result of my work i've been thoroughly tested by mental health professionals and had to take a myriad of psychological testing(e.g. mmpi and rorschach) and i passed all of them. So perhaps it is true that maybe i do suffer from a mental disorder that i've somehow yet to discover, but i don't think that personal attack makes my argument any less legitimate. So far, the only thing backfiring is people who support homosexuality coming on here and insulting my intelligence, petty name-calling, and making insinuations about my mental health and my sexual orientation. You call me judgmental, but look in the mirror before you drop the 'you're just judgmental' hammer. Yes, i oppose homosexuality. I judge people, all the time. I judge people i do business with, i judge people i associate with, i judge people i am friends with, hell i even judge my family. And you're damn straight i judge homosexuals. I judge homosexuals to suffer from a mental illness that requires treatment. I judge homosexuals to often engage in acts of sodomy, pedophilia and beastiality. I also judge rapists, murderers, thieves and self-righteous people who feel that those who oppose homosexuality on religious or moral grounds are nothing but a bunch of mean-spirited trolls, bigots and retards. But just because i oppose homosexuality, doesn't mean i've never done anything to personally wrong a person who was homosexual, or that i have any ill-will towards homosexuals as people. I disagree with their lifestyle, i disagree with their choices and actions. That doesn't mean i am joseph mengele and my goal is to force my beliefs down their throats. But i reserve the right to choose with whom i associate and do business with, as a free man in what used to be a free country. [/QUOTE]
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