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<blockquote data-quote="Rez Exelon" data-source="post: 3491801" data-attributes="member: 5800"><p>Another thing to keep in mind, is that this is a realllllllly bad time to start fresh into reloading. Not that it can't be done, but everyone is trying to do it and scooping all the deals and cheap stuff. I'd wager from past experience that as soon as factory ammo starts coming out, people will look at crap they just bought, realize they don't want to spend the time with it, starting getting factory again, and then dump equipment cheap. Literally happens everytime there's a scare. So if you wanted to wait for deals, the question is how long would you be willing to wait on that bet. Because I'm guessing there's 6-9 months of this left at minimum.</p><p></p><p>Either way, that's one super big thing to talk about I left off the list above:</p><p></p><p>TIME</p><p></p><p>You absolutely must realize that reloading is a time intensive thing. Buying the equipment is easy (albeit costly) but reloading is like a pet. You've gotta dedicate time to feeding, walking, playing. You do NOT want to rush, especially at the start. There needs to be time for watching youtube of experienced reloaders (I really recommend panhandleprecision and Eric Cortina's channels). Time for setting up the work space, time for reading the manuals. Time for quality checks. When reloading, you are the production line, the QC and the person that'll blow their gun up and hand off if you do it wrong. </p><p></p><p>Now, why do I do it? For example, I shoot .375 H&H mag. Factory rounds are maybe 3-4 bucks all the way up to 10+. Each. Now, if I can develop a load my rifle(s) like, I can make that round for about 1-1.25. So lets keep the math easy and say that's a 3 dollar savings. On my single stage setup with the tools above, on average I can do 40 rounds in about 2 (active) hours. Put another way, that's 160 bucks minus the 40 of materials = $120 for two hours, or an hourly rate of $60. So that's worth my time sure. AND it's tuned to my rifle(s). </p><p></p><p>Common caliber stuff on a single stage press is much less rewarding. The time factor doesn't decrease at all like the savings does. Let's say for .223. I've already got brass, so let's assume primer (.05 right now), bullet (.10 right now) and powder (.05??) are in play. That's .20cpr. compared to .50cpr at Academy when it's there. Let's assume a slightly more generous single stage reload rate of 100 in two hours. Now I'm starting at $60 worth of ammo, minus $20 for materials, that gives me $40 for two hours, or $20/per. Not horrible but definitely not the same ballpark. A progressive and quality equipment would speed production rate up substantially to making it a better return value on time. If I was cranking out 300 rounds per hour I'd be back at that $60/hour return rate. </p><p></p><p>Either way, reloading might not be "cheaper" per say --- you'll want to shoot more. And shoot the bigger stuff more since you can reload it <img src="/images/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So, just some extra thoughts for consideration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rez Exelon, post: 3491801, member: 5800"] Another thing to keep in mind, is that this is a realllllllly bad time to start fresh into reloading. Not that it can't be done, but everyone is trying to do it and scooping all the deals and cheap stuff. I'd wager from past experience that as soon as factory ammo starts coming out, people will look at crap they just bought, realize they don't want to spend the time with it, starting getting factory again, and then dump equipment cheap. Literally happens everytime there's a scare. So if you wanted to wait for deals, the question is how long would you be willing to wait on that bet. Because I'm guessing there's 6-9 months of this left at minimum. Either way, that's one super big thing to talk about I left off the list above: TIME You absolutely must realize that reloading is a time intensive thing. Buying the equipment is easy (albeit costly) but reloading is like a pet. You've gotta dedicate time to feeding, walking, playing. You do NOT want to rush, especially at the start. There needs to be time for watching youtube of experienced reloaders (I really recommend panhandleprecision and Eric Cortina's channels). Time for setting up the work space, time for reading the manuals. Time for quality checks. When reloading, you are the production line, the QC and the person that'll blow their gun up and hand off if you do it wrong. Now, why do I do it? For example, I shoot .375 H&H mag. Factory rounds are maybe 3-4 bucks all the way up to 10+. Each. Now, if I can develop a load my rifle(s) like, I can make that round for about 1-1.25. So lets keep the math easy and say that's a 3 dollar savings. On my single stage setup with the tools above, on average I can do 40 rounds in about 2 (active) hours. Put another way, that's 160 bucks minus the 40 of materials = $120 for two hours, or an hourly rate of $60. So that's worth my time sure. AND it's tuned to my rifle(s). Common caliber stuff on a single stage press is much less rewarding. The time factor doesn't decrease at all like the savings does. Let's say for .223. I've already got brass, so let's assume primer (.05 right now), bullet (.10 right now) and powder (.05??) are in play. That's .20cpr. compared to .50cpr at Academy when it's there. Let's assume a slightly more generous single stage reload rate of 100 in two hours. Now I'm starting at $60 worth of ammo, minus $20 for materials, that gives me $40 for two hours, or $20/per. Not horrible but definitely not the same ballpark. A progressive and quality equipment would speed production rate up substantially to making it a better return value on time. If I was cranking out 300 rounds per hour I'd be back at that $60/hour return rate. Either way, reloading might not be "cheaper" per say --- you'll want to shoot more. And shoot the bigger stuff more since you can reload it ;) So, just some extra thoughts for consideration. [/QUOTE]
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