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How many train derailments in 2023 ?
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<blockquote data-quote="JEVapa" data-source="post: 3987925" data-attributes="member: 41176"><p>Yay! You're a winner! Like Bobby Bare</p><p></p><p>I really appreciate your willingness to condescend to give me the benefit of the doubt...your benevolence is magnanimous and your arrogance is boundless, lol. But you're still a winner</p><p></p><p>Ha, anyway, the data I showed is correct for the two values I set - Derailments and calendar years. Everything else is default. Not cherry picked, but I said I would look at the last 20 years and picked the last 20 years and the single type of accident - Derailments.</p><p></p><p>Going into the default values, the SMT groupings (Safety Management Teams) are default to: Unspecified, Norfolk Southern, BNSF, and CSX. That less than half of the SMTs. When you click all, you get 30,451 which averages to 1522 & change.</p><p></p><p>Now for real info that you can skew however you see fit in order to be a winner or not.</p><p></p><p>Of the 49 states (Hawaii doesn't have choo choo trains so they aren't even on the list), 7 have over 1000 derailments in 20 years. The other 42 states are under 1000 derailments in 20 years. Not under a thousand per year, under a thousand in 20 years. </p><p></p><p>The 7 offending states account for just >40% of all the derailments in the last twenty years. The others are just south of 60%...no polling or VA math. 7 states - 12,304 derailments 40.4%; 42 states - 18,147 derailments 59.6% (18148 when you run the table)</p><p>If you exclude the big 7, it's 907 avg per year (42 states). Maybe we should take away their choo choo trains coz they obviously can't handle them.</p><p></p><p>Now, your 1400# was just arbitrary and I don't think you had any real number. You even said so and surprised the sh*t out of yourself that the stats matched up or were greater than your number you plugged. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👍" title="Thumbs up :thumbsup:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /> You did win because you got the gooder guess so we can give you a pat on the back.</p><p></p><p>My lookup was for 20 years from 2022, not 31 years from 2021. It skews the data. It shows an average of ~200 less per year in the last 20 years than the additional 13ish years you added to skew the data to get you a more favorable number. Winner! <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏" title="Clapping hands :clap:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44f.png" data-shortname=":clap:" /></p><p></p><p>But I don't think you were cherry picking, it was probably just a mistake not to compare the same timeframe.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You have to save the excel as a PDF...figured you knew that, everyone else does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JEVapa, post: 3987925, member: 41176"] Yay! You're a winner! Like Bobby Bare I really appreciate your willingness to condescend to give me the benefit of the doubt...your benevolence is magnanimous and your arrogance is boundless, lol. But you're still a winner Ha, anyway, the data I showed is correct for the two values I set - Derailments and calendar years. Everything else is default. Not cherry picked, but I said I would look at the last 20 years and picked the last 20 years and the single type of accident - Derailments. Going into the default values, the SMT groupings (Safety Management Teams) are default to: Unspecified, Norfolk Southern, BNSF, and CSX. That less than half of the SMTs. When you click all, you get 30,451 which averages to 1522 & change. Now for real info that you can skew however you see fit in order to be a winner or not. Of the 49 states (Hawaii doesn't have choo choo trains so they aren't even on the list), 7 have over 1000 derailments in 20 years. The other 42 states are under 1000 derailments in 20 years. Not under a thousand per year, under a thousand in 20 years. The 7 offending states account for just >40% of all the derailments in the last twenty years. The others are just south of 60%...no polling or VA math. 7 states - 12,304 derailments 40.4%; 42 states - 18,147 derailments 59.6% (18148 when you run the table) If you exclude the big 7, it's 907 avg per year (42 states). Maybe we should take away their choo choo trains coz they obviously can't handle them. Now, your 1400# was just arbitrary and I don't think you had any real number. You even said so and surprised the sh*t out of yourself that the stats matched up or were greater than your number you plugged. 👍 You did win because you got the gooder guess so we can give you a pat on the back. My lookup was for 20 years from 2022, not 31 years from 2021. It skews the data. It shows an average of ~200 less per year in the last 20 years than the additional 13ish years you added to skew the data to get you a more favorable number. Winner! 👏 But I don't think you were cherry picking, it was probably just a mistake not to compare the same timeframe. You have to save the excel as a PDF...figured you knew that, everyone else does. [/QUOTE]
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