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<blockquote data-quote="inactive" data-source="post: 1190790" data-attributes="member: 7488"><p>Looks like this was in Long Beach California, based on the Community College shirt and the mall sign had what appeared to be Long Beach city code cited on it. </p><p></p><p>To me it looks like the camera man touched the other guy (white shirt) first, and the other guys (red and black shirt) actually got between them to stop a fight.</p><p></p><p>No one handled it well. You cannot tell some security person to detain a person for stealing a lock they cut off a bike. You cannot tell someone they cannot leave even if you see them with your property. I wouldn't say that there was a disparity of force, as only one person threatened great bodily harm; I would argue the other two were actually pretty mellow. I suspect a one-on-one fist fight and they are both adult males (guessing on cameraman by his voice and being healthy enough to putt around on his bike, since he was not visible) would likely not pass the litmus test for use of deadly force.</p><p></p><p>If it were my bike? I'd take it and leave, and buy a new lock.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="inactive, post: 1190790, member: 7488"] Looks like this was in Long Beach California, based on the Community College shirt and the mall sign had what appeared to be Long Beach city code cited on it. To me it looks like the camera man touched the other guy (white shirt) first, and the other guys (red and black shirt) actually got between them to stop a fight. No one handled it well. You cannot tell some security person to detain a person for stealing a lock they cut off a bike. You cannot tell someone they cannot leave even if you see them with your property. I wouldn't say that there was a disparity of force, as only one person threatened great bodily harm; I would argue the other two were actually pretty mellow. I suspect a one-on-one fist fight and they are both adult males (guessing on cameraman by his voice and being healthy enough to putt around on his bike, since he was not visible) would likely not pass the litmus test for use of deadly force. If it were my bike? I'd take it and leave, and buy a new lock. [/QUOTE]
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