@hipshot !!! He is the man! I had trouble with my gun safe. All at once, I could not get into it. I sent him a PM on Thanksgiving Day, not expecting to hear from him until next week. Nope. He made contact with me on Thanksgiving. He talked me through what to try and gave me some good general info/advice on gun safes. It was kind of a trial and error type of thing, and I went through it several times, but I got there! He got me back into my safe and educated me at the same time! Top notch member of OSA! A++++++++