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<blockquote data-quote="nofearfactor" data-source="post: 2838363" data-attributes="member: 1535"><p>I love this place. I came here from the XD forum a long time ago to get educated as well as entertained- and this place never fails on either of those areas.</p><p></p><p>Hmmm. Ok. So no one has answered your question. I am severly under qualified technically to do that by the way. Im just a regular fella with a bit of extra money trying to make more money to help take care of myself and my family, a small oil/stock investor and mineral rights owner/recipient with limited technical knowledge of the oil business other than being around it my entire life and working in a few jobs in it many years ago for my family who has been in the oil business in OK in many different areas, since the early 1900s.</p><p></p><p>Im a bum musician and artist with a technical school education so Im admittedly not as smart as the rest of you highly trained college educated peeps with the expensive degrees, so bare with me. Just curious about something now. I am about to attempt an analogy.</p><p></p><p>This statement above reminds me of the medical field, which I am aware that you are employed in. Also of which I know absolutely nothing about either by the way. But isnt this statement you made here also kind of in a way close to what goes on in the medical fields business end? </p><p></p><p>Me and my wife can afford to pay our medical bills unlike alot of other less fortunate people who need health care but cant afford it so they either dont pay their bills or they get a go-fund-me going or whatever they do, but I would imagine that alot of those bills just go unpaid. Collection agencies just dont give up trying to collect on the debt that was sold to them, it gets resold and then someone is absorbing that debt. Who pays those bills? Hospitals and Drs and technicians and all of the other highly trained medical field workers dont work for free I imagine with all of the equipment to replace and training they had to pay for and the lifestyle they have keep up when they get some rare time off to enjoy it. Am I wrong in assuming that possibly those of us in a higher tax bracket who can afford to pay more might actually be paying more than we actually should just to help the hospitals and other related technicians and Drs, etc out by absorbing their losses and offsets thru inflated prices? If someone wasnt paying the bills then I just assume that hospitals would just close and or lay off a bunch those highly trained professionals, who would then be looking for work. Hmmm.</p><p></p><p>Whats the difference then may I ask in paying a few cents more at the pump to assure that we have someone doing the dirty azz job it takes in getting that product to the pump for you when you need to go somewhere. You pull up to the pump expecting it to be there and also to be half as expensive as it is in other parts of the world. Yes, we have always had the cheapest gas on the planet. What if you got there to fill up and the stations had no gas at all, they said sorry man we have no gas because oil went to $5 a barrel last night and nobody can afford to get it to you. Wont anybody be driving anywhere but electrics at that poiint. </p><p></p><p>I can only imagine that hospitals would be closing left and right because they cant pay their bills when people couldnt pay them, but they dont, havent seen one around where I live close yet, they close other places that I am not aware of tho. So how do they stay in business and keep constantly updating equipment, training, keep good help, etc, if a good sized portion of their business is charity? They dont. Its a business. (And a filthy dirty business too, kind of like the oilfield. Hmmm). Some how I just have to assume that that debt gets absorbed by someone else who can afford it or medical professionals would be joining petro related field professionals in the unemployment line.</p><p></p><p>My wife has had a few serious medical issues the last few years besides regular maintenance work on worn out shoulders and stuff plus the regular battery of tests and crap a 50 yr old has to go thru. Gladly Ive always been healthy and besides my 2 regular checkups a year with my Doc we spend virtually no money on me for health care. We have spent much money tho for excellant care for my wife, no gripes there at all, they have been fantastic and she is alive today because of them. To us life is precious and we have the money to spend so it was money well spent. We just send in the payments on time, even though my wife does have to haggle with the insurance companies sometimes to get them to do their part better but that isnt the hospital or Drs problem. Still, we have to assume tho that we are paying a bit more sometimes to help the medical field cover the costs for those less fortunate and to also stay ultra high tech, well equipped and well trained in case her or me ever need any more medical procedures. My wife being a Christian to her she doesnt mind at all to pay a bit more because she can afford to do it and she believes in helping people and helping businesses stay alive.</p><p></p><p>I have to say tho vs what my wife thinks about it, and no offense to your field, but, I feel less shafted by big oil when I buy their inflated priced products than I do the crazy prices we have paid some of the hospital and medical services that my wife has under gone. Im very glad she got excellant care, but it comes at a price. Ive seen the itemized lists and its more than hilarious to me to see the prices of some the stuff in hospitals, but then Im no expert at any or it, just an observer. I understand also that we are paying for high technology. The health field just seems to be a little overpriced some times, but what can you do, you need the services so if youre like us and you can afford it you just whip it out and pay the bill even tho you know you kind of got F'd on some of that stuff. Especially the big pharma companies and that racket, surely the Mafia is in on pharmacueticals, wowow, the prices my wife pays for her meds is unF'nreal. </p><p></p><p>Anyways, be it the medical field or gas/oil related products, we're all kidnapped by their high prices because they are products we can not live without. Period. Same as food. When the farmers get sick of operating in the red and selling their high quality products at a loss, look the F out, then you will really be yelling about high prices for a product you have to have. Or you can just go grown your own food. Ride a mule to work. And read medical books to learn to take care of yourself's. Good luck with any of that. Im not capable of any of that so I think I will just continue on paying their stoopid high prices and just try not to get too squeezed by all of them because its now a part of our regular out of control expensive lives. I know now why old people are smiling when they die. They know its finally over and theyre happy to be getting away from it all...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nofearfactor, post: 2838363, member: 1535"] I love this place. I came here from the XD forum a long time ago to get educated as well as entertained- and this place never fails on either of those areas. Hmmm. Ok. So no one has answered your question. I am severly under qualified technically to do that by the way. Im just a regular fella with a bit of extra money trying to make more money to help take care of myself and my family, a small oil/stock investor and mineral rights owner/recipient with limited technical knowledge of the oil business other than being around it my entire life and working in a few jobs in it many years ago for my family who has been in the oil business in OK in many different areas, since the early 1900s. Im a bum musician and artist with a technical school education so Im admittedly not as smart as the rest of you highly trained college educated peeps with the expensive degrees, so bare with me. Just curious about something now. I am about to attempt an analogy. This statement above reminds me of the medical field, which I am aware that you are employed in. Also of which I know absolutely nothing about either by the way. But isnt this statement you made here also kind of in a way close to what goes on in the medical fields business end? Me and my wife can afford to pay our medical bills unlike alot of other less fortunate people who need health care but cant afford it so they either dont pay their bills or they get a go-fund-me going or whatever they do, but I would imagine that alot of those bills just go unpaid. Collection agencies just dont give up trying to collect on the debt that was sold to them, it gets resold and then someone is absorbing that debt. Who pays those bills? Hospitals and Drs and technicians and all of the other highly trained medical field workers dont work for free I imagine with all of the equipment to replace and training they had to pay for and the lifestyle they have keep up when they get some rare time off to enjoy it. Am I wrong in assuming that possibly those of us in a higher tax bracket who can afford to pay more might actually be paying more than we actually should just to help the hospitals and other related technicians and Drs, etc out by absorbing their losses and offsets thru inflated prices? If someone wasnt paying the bills then I just assume that hospitals would just close and or lay off a bunch those highly trained professionals, who would then be looking for work. Hmmm. Whats the difference then may I ask in paying a few cents more at the pump to assure that we have someone doing the dirty azz job it takes in getting that product to the pump for you when you need to go somewhere. You pull up to the pump expecting it to be there and also to be half as expensive as it is in other parts of the world. Yes, we have always had the cheapest gas on the planet. What if you got there to fill up and the stations had no gas at all, they said sorry man we have no gas because oil went to $5 a barrel last night and nobody can afford to get it to you. Wont anybody be driving anywhere but electrics at that poiint. I can only imagine that hospitals would be closing left and right because they cant pay their bills when people couldnt pay them, but they dont, havent seen one around where I live close yet, they close other places that I am not aware of tho. So how do they stay in business and keep constantly updating equipment, training, keep good help, etc, if a good sized portion of their business is charity? They dont. Its a business. (And a filthy dirty business too, kind of like the oilfield. Hmmm). Some how I just have to assume that that debt gets absorbed by someone else who can afford it or medical professionals would be joining petro related field professionals in the unemployment line. My wife has had a few serious medical issues the last few years besides regular maintenance work on worn out shoulders and stuff plus the regular battery of tests and crap a 50 yr old has to go thru. Gladly Ive always been healthy and besides my 2 regular checkups a year with my Doc we spend virtually no money on me for health care. We have spent much money tho for excellant care for my wife, no gripes there at all, they have been fantastic and she is alive today because of them. To us life is precious and we have the money to spend so it was money well spent. We just send in the payments on time, even though my wife does have to haggle with the insurance companies sometimes to get them to do their part better but that isnt the hospital or Drs problem. Still, we have to assume tho that we are paying a bit more sometimes to help the medical field cover the costs for those less fortunate and to also stay ultra high tech, well equipped and well trained in case her or me ever need any more medical procedures. My wife being a Christian to her she doesnt mind at all to pay a bit more because she can afford to do it and she believes in helping people and helping businesses stay alive. I have to say tho vs what my wife thinks about it, and no offense to your field, but, I feel less shafted by big oil when I buy their inflated priced products than I do the crazy prices we have paid some of the hospital and medical services that my wife has under gone. Im very glad she got excellant care, but it comes at a price. Ive seen the itemized lists and its more than hilarious to me to see the prices of some the stuff in hospitals, but then Im no expert at any or it, just an observer. I understand also that we are paying for high technology. The health field just seems to be a little overpriced some times, but what can you do, you need the services so if youre like us and you can afford it you just whip it out and pay the bill even tho you know you kind of got F'd on some of that stuff. Especially the big pharma companies and that racket, surely the Mafia is in on pharmacueticals, wowow, the prices my wife pays for her meds is unF'nreal. Anyways, be it the medical field or gas/oil related products, we're all kidnapped by their high prices because they are products we can not live without. Period. Same as food. When the farmers get sick of operating in the red and selling their high quality products at a loss, look the F out, then you will really be yelling about high prices for a product you have to have. Or you can just go grown your own food. Ride a mule to work. And read medical books to learn to take care of yourself's. Good luck with any of that. Im not capable of any of that so I think I will just continue on paying their stoopid high prices and just try not to get too squeezed by all of them because its now a part of our regular out of control expensive lives. I know now why old people are smiling when they die. They know its finally over and theyre happy to be getting away from it all... [/QUOTE]
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