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<blockquote data-quote="338Shooter" data-source="post: 1180630" data-attributes="member: 3449"><p>Neither of us claimed to be able to do it or even have guns capable of doing so. I guess that means that +600 yards with a .223 is impossible. We do both shoot to 600 yards at the okc gun club and would love to have somewhere handy to shoot farther. </p><p></p><p>You said 223 was range limited to 600 yards and it just isn't. There are a lot of people that couldn't shoot a 223 to 300 yards let alone 1000. But that isn't the fault of the round. By my calculations an 80gr Berger VLD fired at 2600 fps will still be supersonic and only experience 9.5 minutes of windage in a 10 mph cross wind. Yes that is double what my 338 lapua sees but not incomprehensible. I know that is a magic bullet that one can only get from St. Peter at the pearly gates and can only be stabilized by a 1:7 twist barrel that even the likes of Kreiger can't even produce, but if the stars are aligned properly and the nut behind the trigger does his job it can be done. </p><p></p><p>You basically said it was impossible, and you were wrong. I'm not quite sure how this is so difficult for you to grasp. You even admitted it was possible by at least one person and more since you said "few". The one thing I'm not sure about is what those few are doing that others can't. Are they shooting MOA groups, minute of man groups, hitting a certain size steel target, or what. You act like the bullet just dies at 600 yards. It doesn't. The guys that shoot high power are awesome. I'll take a scoped rifle for my long range work. I'd love to try a 223 bolt gun to 1k. You find the range and provide the gun and I'll buy the ammo and I'll lay down behind it and give it a whirl. With you calling wind, how could I miss?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="338Shooter, post: 1180630, member: 3449"] Neither of us claimed to be able to do it or even have guns capable of doing so. I guess that means that +600 yards with a .223 is impossible. We do both shoot to 600 yards at the okc gun club and would love to have somewhere handy to shoot farther. You said 223 was range limited to 600 yards and it just isn't. There are a lot of people that couldn't shoot a 223 to 300 yards let alone 1000. But that isn't the fault of the round. By my calculations an 80gr Berger VLD fired at 2600 fps will still be supersonic and only experience 9.5 minutes of windage in a 10 mph cross wind. Yes that is double what my 338 lapua sees but not incomprehensible. I know that is a magic bullet that one can only get from St. Peter at the pearly gates and can only be stabilized by a 1:7 twist barrel that even the likes of Kreiger can't even produce, but if the stars are aligned properly and the nut behind the trigger does his job it can be done. You basically said it was impossible, and you were wrong. I'm not quite sure how this is so difficult for you to grasp. You even admitted it was possible by at least one person and more since you said "few". The one thing I'm not sure about is what those few are doing that others can't. Are they shooting MOA groups, minute of man groups, hitting a certain size steel target, or what. You act like the bullet just dies at 600 yards. It doesn't. The guys that shoot high power are awesome. I'll take a scoped rifle for my long range work. I'd love to try a 223 bolt gun to 1k. You find the range and provide the gun and I'll buy the ammo and I'll lay down behind it and give it a whirl. With you calling wind, how could I miss? [/QUOTE]
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