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<blockquote data-quote="vdub" data-source="post: 1180689" data-attributes="member: 6845"><p>MadDawg,</p><p></p><p>Why the sudden increase in range to 700yd or 800yds? Not too confident in your original 600yd claim now? The fact remains your original claims were completely incorrect even admittedly so by your own claims. Neither of us argued that it required more skill on the shooter's part but you fail to acknowledge that. You seem only targeted on trying to prove your claims of the range limitations, even though you upped the range to 700yd and 800yd now!!!</p><p></p><p>It is clear that you are trying to cover your tracks and shift attention to my shooting abilities like that will prove your claim. It will only go further in proving my claim the .223/5.56 is not limited to 600yds but when the range is increased the shooter's skill must as well to make hits consistently. So what does your challenge prove? You ran your mouth and state something that wasn't correct and now have to resort to a challenge? </p><p></p><p>Maybe the reason others aren't agreeing with us is because they have not either seen it happen, done it themselves or you are doing enough on your own to make yourself look like you don't know what you are talking about. Please find a place where I said I read about the .223/5.56 range capabilities, other than my completely facetious post about agreeing with you. I have seen several people shoot National Match AR15's at 600yds using nothing but iron sights, very accurately, and very consistently. Must have been a bunch of woo-whoo bullets with special twist barrels!! Oh wait, I don't think that was the case when I talked to the people shooting. Sure they had plenty of skill and practice!!! I give credit to the shooters cause some were better than others. Didn't seem to have any problems with 600yd shooting though.</p><p></p><p>As for meeting you, I have no desire to meet with you so you can call wind for me. Besides I don't have an AR setup for any kind of long range shooting. I have an AI AW in 308 which will shoot just fine at the ranges you listed. I have shot at 600yds and didn't have any problems hitting the target.</p><p></p><p>But I revert back to my statement that since you are the BTDT guy evidently no one else can be correct. However by your own admissions, the .223/5.56 can be shot out past 600yds but for some reason they need woo-whoo bullets and special twist barrels. Guess I am not following the part where the bullet and barrel twist changes it from .223/5.56 caliber. Guess I have not BTDT to understand that logic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vdub, post: 1180689, member: 6845"] MadDawg, Why the sudden increase in range to 700yd or 800yds? Not too confident in your original 600yd claim now? The fact remains your original claims were completely incorrect even admittedly so by your own claims. Neither of us argued that it required more skill on the shooter's part but you fail to acknowledge that. You seem only targeted on trying to prove your claims of the range limitations, even though you upped the range to 700yd and 800yd now!!! It is clear that you are trying to cover your tracks and shift attention to my shooting abilities like that will prove your claim. It will only go further in proving my claim the .223/5.56 is not limited to 600yds but when the range is increased the shooter's skill must as well to make hits consistently. So what does your challenge prove? You ran your mouth and state something that wasn't correct and now have to resort to a challenge? Maybe the reason others aren't agreeing with us is because they have not either seen it happen, done it themselves or you are doing enough on your own to make yourself look like you don't know what you are talking about. Please find a place where I said I read about the .223/5.56 range capabilities, other than my completely facetious post about agreeing with you. I have seen several people shoot National Match AR15's at 600yds using nothing but iron sights, very accurately, and very consistently. Must have been a bunch of woo-whoo bullets with special twist barrels!! Oh wait, I don't think that was the case when I talked to the people shooting. Sure they had plenty of skill and practice!!! I give credit to the shooters cause some were better than others. Didn't seem to have any problems with 600yd shooting though. As for meeting you, I have no desire to meet with you so you can call wind for me. Besides I don't have an AR setup for any kind of long range shooting. I have an AI AW in 308 which will shoot just fine at the ranges you listed. I have shot at 600yds and didn't have any problems hitting the target. But I revert back to my statement that since you are the BTDT guy evidently no one else can be correct. However by your own admissions, the .223/5.56 can be shot out past 600yds but for some reason they need woo-whoo bullets and special twist barrels. Guess I am not following the part where the bullet and barrel twist changes it from .223/5.56 caliber. Guess I have not BTDT to understand that logic. [/QUOTE]
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