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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 3178952" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>The very foundation of the United States unfortunately lies atop what amounts to the historical displacement and unfortunately in some cases, genocide of the native Americans. This is a situation we need to address as a nation to remedy the historical tragedy involved.</p><p></p><p>but the solution does not lie in giving native americans(who constitute 2% of the U.S. population) back land they haven't had sovereignty over for hundreds of years. I mean, while we're at it, we did steal half of Mexico.</p><p></p><p>What about the vast majority of Oklahomans? We live here just as much as the Native Americans do. How we got here is not important, we're here now. this is our home. I don't suggest we should go to where Native Americans are and take their homes from them, but we're just as much American as the Native Americans are. I was born here, long after the tragedies of the 18th and 19th century. My family has been here for hundreds of years. To give the Native Americans sovereignty over this territory would in effect dispossess the majority of Oklahomans of their sovereignty, many of whom were born here. the only real legitimate government in our country is that which is established with the consent of the governed. the Native American government, by virtue of the character and nature of its structure, would not have that consent. You would have to basically deport 94% of Oklahoma, or subject 94% of Oklahoma to the laws of 6% of its population.</p><p></p><p>The rule of law is important, but we have to ask, who makes the law, and what makes them legitimate? The legitimacy of all government, when so constituted, comes from the consent of the governed. What rights will those who reside in newly ceded Native American territory to have a voice in the Native American government?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 3178952, member: 17825"] The very foundation of the United States unfortunately lies atop what amounts to the historical displacement and unfortunately in some cases, genocide of the native Americans. This is a situation we need to address as a nation to remedy the historical tragedy involved. but the solution does not lie in giving native americans(who constitute 2% of the U.S. population) back land they haven't had sovereignty over for hundreds of years. I mean, while we're at it, we did steal half of Mexico. What about the vast majority of Oklahomans? We live here just as much as the Native Americans do. How we got here is not important, we're here now. this is our home. I don't suggest we should go to where Native Americans are and take their homes from them, but we're just as much American as the Native Americans are. I was born here, long after the tragedies of the 18th and 19th century. My family has been here for hundreds of years. To give the Native Americans sovereignty over this territory would in effect dispossess the majority of Oklahomans of their sovereignty, many of whom were born here. the only real legitimate government in our country is that which is established with the consent of the governed. the Native American government, by virtue of the character and nature of its structure, would not have that consent. You would have to basically deport 94% of Oklahoma, or subject 94% of Oklahoma to the laws of 6% of its population. The rule of law is important, but we have to ask, who makes the law, and what makes them legitimate? The legitimacy of all government, when so constituted, comes from the consent of the governed. What rights will those who reside in newly ceded Native American territory to have a voice in the Native American government? [/QUOTE]
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