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<blockquote data-quote="fatcpa" data-source="post: 4098503" data-attributes="member: 11311"><p>I was an IRS Revenue Agent back in the late ‘70’s. Not all IRS auditors are pencil necked geeks. I worked as a machinist on the night shift at Halliburton while driving to Lawton most days to get an accounting degree at Cameron. This is after spending 2 years in the Marine Corp. I joined the ranks of the pencil pushers to get on the job experience. The IRS has two types of auditors that make up the majority of the people that the general public sees. Most of that are individuals or small business owners are audited by Office Auditors who have some accounting education, but are not degreed accounts. Larger business and some large individuals are audited by Revenue Agents who are degreed accounts, including some that are CPA’s. Again, these type IRS employees make up the bulk of the auditors that come in contact with the general public. These type IRS employees make up a large percentage of the purposed 80,000 new hires. NONE OF THESE TYPE IRS EMPLOYEES ARE AUTHORIZED TO CARRY WEAPONS! If you have the misfortune of being accused, during an audit by an Office Auditor or Revenue Agent, of criminal fraud, then you will meet the third type of IRS field agent, the IRS SPECIAL AGENT They belong to the Criminal Investigation Division, or CID. Upon meeting this person for the first time he/she will inform of your Miranda rights. There are relatively few Special Agents in the IRS. THESE SPECIAL AGENTS ARE AUTHORIZED TO CARRY WEAPONS. The activity of these agents include setting up stare-outs, raids, etc. All of this info is from my experience 45 years ago. I did practice accounting from that time until retirement in 2017 and dealt with the IRS on a regular basis. I am not aware of any changes in the IRS structure after Ieft. Just wanted to assure you that there are very few IRS employees running around amongst us that are approved to carry weapons. To me, the real danger now days is not the IRS agent but the IRS’s antiquated computer System. The number of computer generated notices far exceeds any physical audit information. You can at least argue with a live human being. Not so much with a computer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fatcpa, post: 4098503, member: 11311"] I was an IRS Revenue Agent back in the late ‘70’s. Not all IRS auditors are pencil necked geeks. I worked as a machinist on the night shift at Halliburton while driving to Lawton most days to get an accounting degree at Cameron. This is after spending 2 years in the Marine Corp. I joined the ranks of the pencil pushers to get on the job experience. The IRS has two types of auditors that make up the majority of the people that the general public sees. Most of that are individuals or small business owners are audited by Office Auditors who have some accounting education, but are not degreed accounts. Larger business and some large individuals are audited by Revenue Agents who are degreed accounts, including some that are CPA’s. Again, these type IRS employees make up the bulk of the auditors that come in contact with the general public. These type IRS employees make up a large percentage of the purposed 80,000 new hires. NONE OF THESE TYPE IRS EMPLOYEES ARE AUTHORIZED TO CARRY WEAPONS! If you have the misfortune of being accused, during an audit by an Office Auditor or Revenue Agent, of criminal fraud, then you will meet the third type of IRS field agent, the IRS SPECIAL AGENT They belong to the Criminal Investigation Division, or CID. Upon meeting this person for the first time he/she will inform of your Miranda rights. There are relatively few Special Agents in the IRS. THESE SPECIAL AGENTS ARE AUTHORIZED TO CARRY WEAPONS. The activity of these agents include setting up stare-outs, raids, etc. All of this info is from my experience 45 years ago. I did practice accounting from that time until retirement in 2017 and dealt with the IRS on a regular basis. I am not aware of any changes in the IRS structure after Ieft. Just wanted to assure you that there are very few IRS employees running around amongst us that are approved to carry weapons. To me, the real danger now days is not the IRS agent but the IRS’s antiquated computer System. The number of computer generated notices far exceeds any physical audit information. You can at least argue with a live human being. Not so much with a computer. [/QUOTE]
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