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<blockquote data-quote="HoLeChit" data-source="post: 4099150" data-attributes="member: 35036"><p>So, according to an <a href="https://www.openthebooks.com/assets/1/6/Militarization_Data_for_Imaging_FINAL_31.pdf" target="_blank">OpenTheBooks</a> report titled <em>The Militarization of U.S. Executive Agencies </em>shows that, even without the proposed $80 billion increase in funding, the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) is already heavily armed at the expense of the American taxpayer. </p><p></p><p>The current 4,600-gun stockpile includes:</p><p></p><p>3,282 pistols</p><p>621 shotguns</p><p>539 rifles</p><p>15 fully automatic firearms</p><p>4 revolvers</p><p></p><p>According to the <a href="https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/696274.pdf" target="_blank">Government Accountability Office</a> the ammunition breakdown is as follows:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pistol and revolver rounds: 3,151,500</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rifle rounds: 1,472,050</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shotgun rounds: 367,750</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fully automatic firearm rounds: 56,000</li> </ul><p></p><p>According to <a href="https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/criminal-investigation-ci-at-a-glance" target="_blank">Criminal Investigation (CI) At-a-Glance | Internal Revenue Service</a> there is 2100 Special Agents within the IRS-CI, and I am willing to bet the vast majority of those individuals carry a firearm. That ends up equating to 1.5 handguns per special agent, with enough rifles and shotguns for every 3rd agent to get one, roughly. How I figure it probably works is that everybody gets a sidearm, there’s a handful of sidearms that sit in an armory somewhere because the government likes to have extras or leave broken stuff laying around in a corner, and there’s enough rifles and shotguns for a few tactical teams and a couple of guys to have backups. But just like most high speed guys, those tactical teams are likely very well funded and likely have extra crap just hiding in a closet somewhere because they had budget to burn. </p><p></p><p>Why so much ammo? Thats really not that much. The average military ordinance rounding error dwarfs these figures. But, they equate to 960 rounds per handgun, 2731 rounds per rifle, and 592 shotgun shells per shotgun. Typically, ammo is bought in contracts, and these typically end up being multi year contracts. They’re not gonna just send the boys to to bass pro with the company card to pick up a box of FMJ’s on the way to the range. They’re gonna buy enough for carry and training to last several years, and to keep said stockpile up if ammo shortages were to happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HoLeChit, post: 4099150, member: 35036"] So, according to an [URL='https://www.openthebooks.com/assets/1/6/Militarization_Data_for_Imaging_FINAL_31.pdf']OpenTheBooks[/URL] report titled [I]The Militarization of U.S. Executive Agencies [/I]shows that, even without the proposed $80 billion increase in funding, the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) is already heavily armed at the expense of the American taxpayer. The current 4,600-gun stockpile includes: 3,282 pistols 621 shotguns 539 rifles 15 fully automatic firearms 4 revolvers According to the [URL='https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/696274.pdf']Government Accountability Office[/URL] the ammunition breakdown is as follows: [LIST] [*]Pistol and revolver rounds: 3,151,500 [*]Rifle rounds: 1,472,050 [*]Shotgun rounds: 367,750 [*]Fully automatic firearm rounds: 56,000 [/LIST] According to [URL="https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/criminal-investigation-ci-at-a-glance"]Criminal Investigation (CI) At-a-Glance | Internal Revenue Service[/URL] there is 2100 Special Agents within the IRS-CI, and I am willing to bet the vast majority of those individuals carry a firearm. That ends up equating to 1.5 handguns per special agent, with enough rifles and shotguns for every 3rd agent to get one, roughly. How I figure it probably works is that everybody gets a sidearm, there’s a handful of sidearms that sit in an armory somewhere because the government likes to have extras or leave broken stuff laying around in a corner, and there’s enough rifles and shotguns for a few tactical teams and a couple of guys to have backups. But just like most high speed guys, those tactical teams are likely very well funded and likely have extra crap just hiding in a closet somewhere because they had budget to burn. Why so much ammo? Thats really not that much. The average military ordinance rounding error dwarfs these figures. But, they equate to 960 rounds per handgun, 2731 rounds per rifle, and 592 shotgun shells per shotgun. Typically, ammo is bought in contracts, and these typically end up being multi year contracts. They’re not gonna just send the boys to to bass pro with the company card to pick up a box of FMJ’s on the way to the range. They’re gonna buy enough for carry and training to last several years, and to keep said stockpile up if ammo shortages were to happen. [/QUOTE]
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