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<blockquote data-quote="sh00ter" data-source="post: 2821414" data-attributes="member: 24531"><p>Look, there are all sorts of things you can do to "hack" the 1950's DI design to be more reliable...in fact, I recommend it if you are going to buy a carbine since the gas tube is so much shorter...chrome bolts/carriers, special gun lubes, better materials, yadda, yadda, yadda...but the only reason the DI M4 is still used in the military is due to politics...Senator Coburn even tried to blow the whistle on this...eventually (sooner rather than later) the military WILL go to a piston gun as standard issue...they are better for harsh conditions (like desert warefare)...the AK proved this already. The Sig 556 is what would happen if the M4 and the A-47 bred together and had a child...it takes the good elements from both and incorporates them into one rifle...the 516 is even cooler since it still gives you the AR platform...and many of your beloved AR makers also have piston options now...this isn't personal...if you want something light-weight, simple, and cheap, then it is hard to beat the AR carbine...it is better suited for a SWAT team where ony a few mags would be fired before it was cleaned and put back on the shelf ready to go for the next call...but if the SHTF and you had to spend 3yrs in the bush with no gun oil...I doubt you'd feel the same way as you do now...the purists always try and defend the DI and overlook the fact the full-sized M16 is what it was meant for...the carbine just amplifies the reliability concerns that were already there in the M16...if you still don't think there is anything to what I'm saying I'd tell you it is a free country and I absolutely respect you opinion and your choices...and "you can keep your doctor" LOL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course it worked fine...99% of them will when new & clean...all my opinions are based on SHTF "stake your life on it" scenarios...Thankfully the AR-15 carbine that James Holmes had jammed or he'd have killed more people...the lack of reliability of improperly cleaned & cared for AR-15's SAVES LIVES...but also cost us an American life or two in Vietnam and Iraq...The MARINES bought a buncha piston AR's a few years ago and I want to say some special forces branches have access to the SCAR?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sh00ter, post: 2821414, member: 24531"] Look, there are all sorts of things you can do to "hack" the 1950's DI design to be more reliable...in fact, I recommend it if you are going to buy a carbine since the gas tube is so much shorter...chrome bolts/carriers, special gun lubes, better materials, yadda, yadda, yadda...but the only reason the DI M4 is still used in the military is due to politics...Senator Coburn even tried to blow the whistle on this...eventually (sooner rather than later) the military WILL go to a piston gun as standard issue...they are better for harsh conditions (like desert warefare)...the AK proved this already. The Sig 556 is what would happen if the M4 and the A-47 bred together and had a child...it takes the good elements from both and incorporates them into one rifle...the 516 is even cooler since it still gives you the AR platform...and many of your beloved AR makers also have piston options now...this isn't personal...if you want something light-weight, simple, and cheap, then it is hard to beat the AR carbine...it is better suited for a SWAT team where ony a few mags would be fired before it was cleaned and put back on the shelf ready to go for the next call...but if the SHTF and you had to spend 3yrs in the bush with no gun oil...I doubt you'd feel the same way as you do now...the purists always try and defend the DI and overlook the fact the full-sized M16 is what it was meant for...the carbine just amplifies the reliability concerns that were already there in the M16...if you still don't think there is anything to what I'm saying I'd tell you it is a free country and I absolutely respect you opinion and your choices...and "you can keep your doctor" LOL. Of course it worked fine...99% of them will when new & clean...all my opinions are based on SHTF "stake your life on it" scenarios...Thankfully the AR-15 carbine that James Holmes had jammed or he'd have killed more people...the lack of reliability of improperly cleaned & cared for AR-15's SAVES LIVES...but also cost us an American life or two in Vietnam and Iraq...The MARINES bought a buncha piston AR's a few years ago and I want to say some special forces branches have access to the SCAR? [/QUOTE]
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