No kidding.
We could bump some of the old discussions, but some folks don't like that.
Thank God I'll never have to worry about buying .22 again. 
Obama made me a believer.
Obama made me a believer.
Agree with Jimmy on this one. If I had to rely on rimfire for defense due to infirmity, I’d make my ammo choice on two words: “Eley Primed”.
OT: Agree with the consensus on CCI ammo. Even in my Walther P22QD I've had maybe one or two FTF/FTE with CCI ammo (mini mags both solid and hp). And anyone who knows about the P22 line knows they are picky on their ammo.
old tired topic that is more fossil now than a dead horse: Everyone agrees that a) .380 and up are better calibers for self defense and b) .22LR WILL kill a person, but may not stop a drug crazed person until after they have done harm. However, my 2 cents (worth about a plugged nickle, and even less to some) is that in many situations just brandishing a firearm will work as a deterrent. And even if you had to shoot many more will run away from getting shot. How many times on police shootings have we seen people run off after getting shot with 9mm and even .40 S&W? Personally I carry a .40 S&W when I'm in town but 9mm when I'm out of town. My choice is more on round count (12+1 in .40, 15+1 in 9mm for my PX4s).
As to why people carry .22: My wife is a prime example of someone who would carry a .22 for self defense. She, due to a statin she was on, lost a lot of grip strength (along with balance and other muscle tone). She can not rack the slide on even a M&P EZ .380. She gets close, but isn't able to. However we went through some dry fire drill (using snap caps of course) with her Taurus PT22 and she is able to a) load it and chamber a round and b) able to pull the trigger easily. So for her, its probably going to be .22 or nothing.
So, to give that pile a dust that slightly resembles a horse carcass a kick, .22 is good if that is all you can get or use. Otherwise JHP SD ammo in calibers .380 and above is more optimal.
old tired topic that is more fossil now than a dead horse: Everyone agrees that a) .380 and up are better calibers for self defense and b) .22LR WILL kill a person, but may not stop a drug crazed person until after they have done harm. However, my 2 cents (worth about a plugged nickle, and even less to some) is that in many situations just brandishing a firearm will work as a deterrent. And even if you had to shoot many more will run away from getting shot. How many times on police shootings have we seen people run off after getting shot with 9mm and even .40 S&W? Personally I carry a .40 S&W when I'm in town but 9mm when I'm out of town. My choice is more on round count (12+1 in .40, 15+1 in 9mm for my PX4s).
As to why people carry .22: My wife is a prime example of someone who would carry a .22 for self defense. She, due to a statin she was on, lost a lot of grip strength (along with balance and other muscle tone). She can not rack the slide on even a M&P EZ .380. She gets close, but isn't able to. However we went through some dry fire drill (using snap caps of course) with her Taurus PT22 and she is able to a) load it and chamber a round and b) able to pull the trigger easily. So for her, its probably going to be .22 or nothing.
So, to give that pile a dust that slightly resembles a horse carcass a kick, .22 is good if that is all you can get or use. Otherwise JHP SD ammo in calibers .380 and above is more optimal.
Thanks for the replies. Looks like CCI is the way to go for quality ammo.
Just putting this out for FYI, not a recommendation:
.22 lr FOR SELF DEFENSE?? - MUST WATCH (.22 vs. FRESH side of Beef)
Beyond Seclusion
Published on Feb 2, 2020
.22 lr FOR SELF DEFENSE?? - MUST WATCH (.22 vs. FRESH side of Beef)
Beyond Seclusion
Published on Feb 2, 2020
